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Just ordered a surplus .32 ACP. Why? I have no idea.

Dobbinsky

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You'll be happy, because it will shoot in the manner as the vaunted Colt's M1903. I love the way mine shoots. The advantages are as follows:

1. It is an all-steel pistol that barely bobbles in your hand when firing a string of rapid-fire shots. You can place every shot from the magazine in a circle the size of a teacup (at 7 yards) in less time than it takes to tell.
2. The .32 is inherently accurate.
3. The pistol will devour peak pressure loads as if it is candy and begs for more.
4. It disassembles easily and can be cleaned quickly.
5. Even new shooters can shoot it without difficulty.

They are still making the pistols in Serbia, so replacement parts are still available.

Enjoy the handgun. It is an underappreciated pistol in today's .380/9mm crazy world. Shoot it regularly, change the recoil springs (from Wolff gun springs) when needed, and enjoy it!
 
You'll be happy, because it will shoot in the manner as the vaunted Colt's M1903. I love the way mine shoots. The advantages are as follows:

1. It is an all-steel pistol that barely bobbles in your hand when firing a string of rapid-fire shots. You can place every shot from the magazine in a circle the size of a teacup (at 7 yards) in less time than it takes to tell.
2. The .32 is inherently accurate.
3. The pistol will devour peak pressure loads as if it is candy and begs for more.
4. It disassembles easily and can be cleaned quickly.
5. Even new shooters can shoot it without difficulty.

They are still making the pistols in Serbia, so replacement parts are still available.

Enjoy the handgun. It is an underappreciated pistol in today's .380/9mm crazy world. Shoot it regularly, change the recoil springs (from Wolff gun springs) when needed, and enjoy it!
Yeah, I'm excited about it. I've heard that American-made .32 ACP doesn't feed as well as European, that the rim is different and doesn't have the power reuired. Fiocchi has the European specs, 73gr and runs well.
 
Yeah, I'm excited about it. I've heard that American-made .32 ACP doesn't feed as well as European, that the rim is different and doesn't have the power required. Fiocchi has the European specs, 73gr and runs well.
Indeed, it does. The 73-grain Fiocchi "blue box" (loaded to CIP levels) reaches the vitals without much difficulty.

Consider this, a flurry of hot .32 ACP loads to the chest can bring a confrontation to a quick conclusion.

Back in the 1970s, an El Paso, Texas Detective arrived on the firing range with a Colt's M1903. The Uniforms began snickering. At the beep, the Detective drew and emptied a magazine of .32 within 3 1/2 seconds. the man had shot out a 2" circle you could cover with a teacup. (This isn't coincidental. JMB engineered it this way.)

The uniformed officers stopped snickering.
 
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This is the reason I bought the Bersa Thunder .32. The "little pistol" that does everything you want. At 20 ounces it kicks bootie when needed. The alloy frame keeps it lighter than the Walther PPK and the recoil makes it a real sweetheart. I have been begging Bersa to import more for those of us who believe that 11 rounds (10+1 in the pipe) and four ounces lighter than the Walther PPK is wonderful. The smoother, liger, DA trigger makes it a great carry pistol. (It also carries three more rounds in the magazine to boot.)

I love the way the Thunder .32 handles and shoots. If you can find one, snag it. (You can thank me later.)

 
The .32 ACP cartridge can be loaded to some high stepping velocities. (I wouldn't fire these loads in any .32 that isn't made from solid steel.)

Here is an example of Buffalo Bore's offering:


.32 ACP +P Ammo
75 gr. Hardcast F.N. - (1,150 fps/ M.E. 220 ft. lbs.)
20 Round Box

ITEM 30A


The 32 ACP auto inhabits a valuable and useful place in our society as a defensive cartridge, mostly because of the easily concealable, tiny pistols chambered for it. HOWEVER, because of the very limited size of the cartridge, it is plagued with limited power and therefore most of the existing ammo in 32 ACP suffers from not being reliable as a man-stopper. We've studied and examined nearly all available 32 ammo and find it wanting as a reliable means of self-defense, especially against a large, drugged up/pain-free, determined attacker.

Here's the problem:

The current 32 ACP frangible ammo delivers a large amount of surface trauma but lacks sufficient penetration. For example, if you shot me or another sane man in the face, with modern, frangible 32 ACP ammo, it would blow off a big portion of my cheek. I would undoubtedly fall to the ground in shock and pain, but I would be very much alive and functional if I could get past the pain, as that frangible bullet would have stopped somewhere in my face, never making it to my brain. However, if you shot a drugged up maniac in the face with that same frangible bullet and blew half his cheek off, he would keep right on coming because he is insane and is not thinking like you or I. Plus, he is likely pain free and fear free and won't know that part of his cheek is missing and if he did know, he would not care. So, whatever 32 ACP ammo you shoot him in the face with, had better go through his face and blow his brain stem out the back of his head because only a CNS (central nervous system) hit with a 32 ACP is going to stop him. Likewise, a torso hit to the sternum needs to penetrate deep enough to blow all the way through his spine in order to shut him down instantly. If you fail to shut him down instantly, you and your loved ones are going to have to find a way to survive while you wait for him to bleed out and pass out. The best chance of survival for you and your loved ones is to shut down the attacker instantly. So, we've designed this 32 ACP+P load to keep you and yours alive under the worst of scenarios.

This 32 ACP+P ammo will better all American made 32 ACP+P ammo by 110 fps to 150 fps with a heavier bullet than any other American made 32 ACP ammo.

Item 30A/20
is a 75gr. HARD cast bullet with a flat nose. It is traveling over 1,000 fps out of my 3.4 inch Beretta Mod. 70. We've used a flash suppressed powder so that you won't be blinded by your own gunfire in the dark. This is significant as well over 90% of all civilian shootings in America occur in low light when the criminal element is out and about. Also, this flat nosed, nonexpanding, hard cast, bullet will penetrate deeply and will do much more damage than the typical round nosed FMJ bullet. Round nosed bullets tend to slip and slide through living tissue, doing little damage as opposed to a flat nosed bullet. The flat nose not only wounds much more than a round nosed bullet, but it actually keeps the penetration straight and thus deeper. Notice the below velocities from my personal 32 ACP pistols. These are real-world guns and thus the speeds are realistic and not the exaggerated speeds you'll see produced from laboratory test barrels. What you see with Buffalo Bore Ammo advertising, is truly what you get in the "real world" where it matters. You can expect 20+ inches of straight-line penetration in flesh and bone with this load. If you are worried about over-penetration with this load, DON'T! You chose to carry a tiny under-powered 32 ACP pistol and the tradeoff is that now you are going to have to stay alive using this pistol and over-penetration will be the least of your worries if you end up needing this gun to save yourself or your family.

➤ 1,001 fps -- Berretta Mod. 70, 3-inch bbl.
➤ 910 fps -- Kel Tec, 2.5-inch bbl
➤ 856 fps -- Seecamp, 2-inch bbl.


The above bullet speeds are 110 fps to 150 fps faster than the Winchester 71 gr. FMJ ammo on the American market. Not only is our bullet heavier than any other American made 32 ACP ammo, but it is moving about 15% to 20% faster - with that heavier bullet! Feeding and function were flawless in the three test pistols listed above.



Item 30A - Exterior Ballistics Charts for two different Muzzle Velocities

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Muzzle Velocity @ 1150 fps for Item 30A


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Muzzle Velocity @ 850 fps for Item 30A

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The .32 ACP cartridge can be loaded to some high stepping velocities. (I wouldn't fire these loads in any .32 that isn't made from solid steel.)

Here is an example of Buffalo Bore's offering:


.32 ACP +P Ammo
75 gr. Hardcast F.N. - (1,150 fps/ M.E. 220 ft. lbs.)
20 Round Box

ITEM 30A


The 32 ACP auto inhabits a valuable and useful place in our society as a defensive cartridge, mostly because of the easily concealable, tiny pistols chambered for it. HOWEVER, because of the very limited size of the cartridge, it is plagued with limited power and therefore most of the existing ammo in 32 ACP suffers from not being reliable as a man-stopper. We've studied and examined nearly all available 32 ammo and find it wanting as a reliable means of self-defense, especially against a large, drugged up/pain-free, determined attacker.

Here's the problem:

The current 32 ACP frangible ammo delivers a large amount of surface trauma but lacks sufficient penetration. For example, if you shot me or another sane man in the face, with modern, frangible 32 ACP ammo, it would blow off a big portion of my cheek. I would undoubtedly fall to the ground in shock and pain, but I would be very much alive and functional if I could get past the pain, as that frangible bullet would have stopped somewhere in my face, never making it to my brain. However, if you shot a drugged up maniac in the face with that same frangible bullet and blew half his cheek off, he would keep right on coming because he is insane and is not thinking like you or I. Plus, he is likely pain free and fear free and won't know that part of his cheek is missing and if he did know, he would not care. So, whatever 32 ACP ammo you shoot him in the face with, had better go through his face and blow his brain stem out the back of his head because only a CNS (central nervous system) hit with a 32 ACP is going to stop him. Likewise, a torso hit to the sternum needs to penetrate deep enough to blow all the way through his spine in order to shut him down instantly. If you fail to shut him down instantly, you and your loved ones are going to have to find a way to survive while you wait for him to bleed out and pass out. The best chance of survival for you and your loved ones is to shut down the attacker instantly. So, we've designed this 32 ACP+P load to keep you and yours alive under the worst of scenarios.

This 32 ACP+P ammo will better all American made 32 ACP+P ammo by 110 fps to 150 fps with a heavier bullet than any other American made 32 ACP ammo.

Item 30A/20
is a 75gr. HARD cast bullet with a flat nose. It is traveling over 1,000 fps out of my 3.4 inch Beretta Mod. 70. We've used a flash suppressed powder so that you won't be blinded by your own gunfire in the dark. This is significant as well over 90% of all civilian shootings in America occur in low light when the criminal element is out and about. Also, this flat nosed, nonexpanding, hard cast, bullet will penetrate deeply and will do much more damage than the typical round nosed FMJ bullet. Round nosed bullets tend to slip and slide through living tissue, doing little damage as opposed to a flat nosed bullet. The flat nose not only wounds much more than a round nosed bullet, but it actually keeps the penetration straight and thus deeper. Notice the below velocities from my personal 32 ACP pistols. These are real-world guns and thus the speeds are realistic and not the exaggerated speeds you'll see produced from laboratory test barrels. What you see with Buffalo Bore Ammo advertising, is truly what you get in the "real world" where it matters. You can expect 20+ inches of straight-line penetration in flesh and bone with this load. If you are worried about over-penetration with this load, DON'T! You chose to carry a tiny under-powered 32 ACP pistol and the tradeoff is that now you are going to have to stay alive using this pistol and over-penetration will be the least of your worries if you end up needing this gun to save yourself or your family.

➤ 1,001 fps -- Berretta Mod. 70, 3-inch bbl.
➤ 910 fps -- Kel Tec, 2.5-inch bbl
➤ 856 fps -- Seecamp, 2-inch bbl.


The above bullet speeds are 110 fps to 150 fps faster than the Winchester 71 gr. FMJ ammo on the American market. Not only is our bullet heavier than any other American made 32 ACP ammo, but it is moving about 15% to 20% faster - with that heavier bullet! Feeding and function were flawless in the three test pistols listed above.



Item 30A - Exterior Ballistics Charts for two different Muzzle Velocities

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MuzzleNote.png


Muzzle Velocity @ 1150 fps for Item 30A


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Muzzle Velocity @ 850 fps for Item 30A

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Does Buffallo Bore make their .32 ACP with the European style extracor groove?
 
Here is a CZ 50:
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Note the comparison to the Walther PP.
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Does Buffalo Bore make their .32 ACP with the European style extractor groove?
You can shoot it in the Zastava M70 without any problems. The Zastava was built to handle the European pressures and can run this ammunition. This is a perfect carry load. If you shoot a BG in the sternum, it will probably pass right through and pierce a lung or an artery. You can't go wrong with a 7.65 Browning at this power level. The longer the barrel, the better results. I own the same pistol and would shoot it without any reservations.

Hint: This cartridge is not set on "stun". ;) (y)
 
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