love that Lucas Extreme Duty oil

[Old_Me]

yeah, i am going to the range thursday mornin', and will be taking the Dan Wesson PM 45.

last time it went for a work out was back in january.

i have for a long time now (at least 2 years..???) been using Lucas Extreme Duty oil.

i did a quick field strip, to check on the slide and rails, and yup...still wet.

in "sharp contrast", oils and even synthetics i had used in the past.......evaporated..??

this was a discussion many of us here had, and if you recall, BassBob was here as well.

it was said that YES, many gun oils evaporate over time, and i personally witnessed that with oils, including Weapon Shield Synthetic, does indeed evaporate, which ticked me off to no end, given the money spent for "super lubes", and shelf over flowing with "gun oils"

yes, i tried Mobil 1, like some here have said they use.......i use Mobil 1 (labeled Toyota) in my car(s) engines...PERIOD.

good to see that 1911, was still wet, rather than dry as a bone.

for the record...i rarely if ever, use any grease, except for my carry guns, on those rails/slides, to prevent the oil from migrating down into my holster.

 

[Jester560]

lucas makes good shizz. It is all i use.

 

[Annihilator]

yeah, i am going to the range thursday mornin', and will be taking the Dan Wesson PM 45.

last time it went for a work out was back in january.

i have for a long time now (at least 2 years..???) been using Lucas Extreme Duty oil.

i did a quick field strip, to check on the slide and rails, and yup...still wet.

in "sharp contrast", oils and even synthetics i had used in the past.......evaporated..??

this was a discussion many of us here had, and if you recall, BassBob was here as well.

it was said that YES, many gun oils evaporate over time, and i personally witnessed that with oils, including Weapon Shield Synthetic, does indeed evaporate, which ticked me off to no end, given the money spent for "super lubes", and shelf over flowing with "gun oils"

yes, i tried Mobil 1, like some here have said they use.......i use Mobil 1 (labeled Toyota) in my car(s) engines...PERIOD.

good to see that 1911, was still wet, rather than dry as a bone.

for the record...i rarely if ever, use any grease, except for my carry guns, on those rails/slides, to prevent the oil from migrating down into my holster.

Only products I use, there bore cleaner is also very good, no strong smell.

 

[HayesGreener]

I have encountered many students whose oil had dried up on their guns and gave them malfunctions. It is why I only use grease on the rails of semi-autos. I like Lucas Oil grease just fine and have a tube on my bench but the blue stuff will stain your clothes, so I use TW25 on carry guns instead.

 

[Pitdogg2]

I've used many, loved Tetra lube and grease. When they stopped using Teflon it went to , that is when I found Lucas products. It is all I use now.

 

[Shibadog]

Lucas oils and grease are good products. Too many modern “environmentally friendly” super lubed use a carrier that evaporates and leaves gunk-nasty gunk- behind. Looking at you Froglube

 

[SimonRL]

I have encountered many students whose oil had dried up on their guns and gave them malfunctions. It is why I only use grease on the rails of semi-autos. I like Lucas Oil grease just fine and have a tube on my bench but the blue stuff will stain your clothes, so I use TW25 on carry guns instead.

I like TW25 but it gets runny when it gets hot. I use Gun Butter on my rails and Lucas Oil everywhere else.

 

[Anchorite]

The most important thing I want is CLEAN lubricant.
Lucas works very well, so does Ballistol, white lithium and action lube.

For years used lots of Mobil 1 in Zero or 5 wt with no issues either.............in hot weather, if using Mobil 1, I'll move up to 10 wt.

Really not much need to look any further than one of those, IMO....................lots of BS & snake oil about lubes.

I think most shooters fail to understand the when,where,why and how when it comes to proper lubrication.

And remember, as a general rule among engineers and machinists, if it slides, you grease it. If it pivots, you oil it.

 

[TidalWave]

I've used many, loved Tetra lube and grease. When they stopped using Teflon it went to , that is when I found Lucas products. It is all I use now.

Pit, I had heard Tetra changed something but never knew what. So they removed Teflon from it? I thought it was still PFTE, or whatever. About when was that??
It still works fine for me.

I do love Lucas, too. And Clenzoil (which has about the best cleaning properties of any of ‘em, imho…)
Ballistol rounds out my favs - it’s the ‘safest’ and an old standby…their individual wipes are the easiest thing to use.

 

[Old_Me]

1) The most important thing I want is CLEAN lubricant.


2) And remember, as a general rule among engineers and machinists, if it slides, you grease it. If it pivots, you oil it.

re: 1).......yes, i do not want gunk as well

re: 2)......ok, i did at first take the advice of some here regarding grease on the rails.....in fact, Sig recommends grease on the 1911 rails for the STX 1911, that i have. but they did not include ANY grease in the gun case, where it clearly stated, there would be a free sample.

so......i had to buy a small tube.......not much in cost, but still i had to buy it.

it was a nightmare cleaning that Sig from all the grease after my range visit.

from that day on, i swore off grease, unless it was my carry gun, which i stated, i DO use grease on those rails, to avoid oil running down into my holster, and possibly onto my pants....

anyways......

this.....

if the machinists and engineers say....."if it slides you grease it".....

then by that "old saying".....

shouldn't we be using grease, on the pistons in our vehicles engines..??...lawn mowers..????? air compressors..???

after all.........those pistons DO slide, up and down....metal on metal...don't they..?????

well of course not, we use oil, whether regular "dino oil", or synthetics...don't we..????

so i don't always "follow" what "some experts say"..........

but i can "see" thus far, many here too like the Lucas brand....a mighty fine product indeed.....

i also use Lucas Fuel injector cleaner, every 3,000 miles in all the cars/trucks i have ever owned as well.

damned good products.

 

[Annihilator]

I don’t use grease on my 1911’s, actually don’t care for it, my routine is when I go to the range, I re-oil the slide rails slightly, never had any issues, now when I did own a AMT government model way back in the 80’s, those guns were prone to galling since they were stainless, oil would not work so I did use lithium grease on that gun, still didn’t help the galling issues.

 

[Anchorite]

re: 1).......yes, i do not want gunk as well

re: 2)......ok, i did at first take the advice of some here regarding grease on the rails.....in fact, Sig recommends grease on the 1911 rails for the STX 1911, that i have. but they did not include ANY grease in the gun case, where it clearly stated, there would be a free sample.

so......i had to buy a small tube.......not much in cost, but still i had to buy it.

it was a nightmare cleaning that Sig from all the grease after my range visit.

from that day on, i swore off grease, unless it was my carry gun, which i stated, i DO use grease on those rails, to avoid oil running down into my holster, and possibly onto my pants....

anyways......

this.....

if the machinists and engineers say....."if it slides you grease it".....

then by that "old saying".....

shouldn't we be using grease, on the pistons in our vehicles engines..??...lawn mowers..????? air compressors..???

after all.........those pistons DO slide, up and down....metal on metal...don't they..?????

well of course not, we use oil, whether regular "dino oil", or synthetics...don't we..????

so i don't always "follow" what "some experts say"..........

but i can "see" thus far, many here too like the Lucas brand....a mighty fine product indeed.....

i also use Lucas Fuel injector cleaner, every 3,000 miles in all the cars/trucks i have ever owned as well.

damned good products.

I submit that you are over thinking this. An ICE engine is not the same as a firearm and any comparison is not really a valid comparison .... I know it has been hotly debated for as long as there have been ICEs and firearms.

Anytime the subject of "firearm lubricants" come up, you can ask 5 people for their opinions and experiences and get 25 different answers. Maybe 50.

Can you grease the rails of a pistol? Absolutely. Should you avoid grease in a pistol? Probably want to avoid applying too much. Everyone has their thoughts and opinions on the matter.

Should you run a pistol wet? Should you run it dry? Does it matter? Ask anyone and you'll get their thoughts on the topic. It is a topic as hotly contested as any.

But all these choices in lubricants does prove one thing; handguns, shotguns and most semi-auto rifles will work 100% of the time with ANY lubricant so long as it's properly applied and used within the parameters for which it was intended.

Lubricants don't fail unless they're improperly used, in improper amounts under improper conditions. It ain't rocket science.

In the FWIW category, in this Bill Wilson video, he covers the 1911 and refers to his lubricate as, "a heavyweight oil, or a lightweight grease."

Enjoy!