what's up Springfield family so IEDC a XDM Elite 10 mil 4.5 and I run a holosun PID Plus light on it problem is no matter what I seem to do it always goes flying off. I torqued it down and even put loctite on it this last time and it's still flew off other problem is my only two holsters are light bearing holsters who will not work without my light any ideas on what I can do? just starting to get irritating thank you in advance semper fi
My light can't handle the kick
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yeah brother I'm aware of all of that. I guess my question was has anybody ever dealt with this before I did extensive research before I bought the light and everywhere I read said that it can handle the recoil so I don't know if it's user error or something I'm doing wrong I do have one IWB non-light bearing holster but my range holster and my other IWB are both light bearing. thank you for your response
BassCliff
Hellcat
Hi,
That seems like a pretty good light with an adequate attachment system.
It looks like it even has a little bar to fit in between the pic rails. Is anything worn? Have you tried contacting Holosun customer service to see if they have any suggestions? I know the 10mm can kick a bit but it shouldn't be tossing your light. Odd. Good luck, sir.
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliff
That seems like a pretty good light with an adequate attachment system.
It looks like it even has a little bar to fit in between the pic rails. Is anything worn? Have you tried contacting Holosun customer service to see if they have any suggestions? I know the 10mm can kick a bit but it shouldn't be tossing your light. Odd. Good luck, sir.
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliff
HayesGreener
Ronin
Have you reached out to Holosun with your problem? Mounting a pistol light on a pic rail can be tricky. If you have not done this already, try loosening the mounting screw as far as it will go so it will seat all the way on the rail. When mating the light to gun, place the fixed side of your light first before tightening the clamp screw. You also should have a recoil lug on the light that fits into a channel of the pic rail on the gun. I believe that light has adapters so you can position the light fore and aft as you want it. Everything on the light should fit tightly into the pic rail with no gap before you tighten it down on the gun. That's all I have, good luck with it
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it does and for some reason I had the adapter plate backwards so it wasn't engaging in the slot. so I fixed it and I'll take it out later this week to try again. I will keep y'all posted thank you for your responses
only problem with getting a new light is I would need new holsters. and those aren't cheep
yeah I think I had that in backwards so it wasn't engaging in between where it was supposed to be. I believe I have fixed it now.
HayesGreener
Ronin
Sounds like you solved the problem
I'm hoping so
A lot of times the holster is an issue (is it a quality make or gun show Special by am amature?) but all WML can have some risk of issues.
Folks don’t like my view but I have been instructing (both agency wise and private sector) before WML and have seen them come into favor
They cause more problems than they are worth period. I won’t even get into the amount of folks that sweep things they shouldn’t (even agencies have a history of discipline on traffic stops when they forget their had held and use their WML to read drivers license)
You have the option to find another WML and holster set up that works better
Safariland Alien gear, Veggar and LAS Concealment are some great quality makes
OR simply run without a WML outside of a true duty use WML are way overrated and generally a security blanket in 80 degree weather.
But you do you!
Good luck
Folks don’t like my view but I have been instructing (both agency wise and private sector) before WML and have seen them come into favor
They cause more problems than they are worth period. I won’t even get into the amount of folks that sweep things they shouldn’t (even agencies have a history of discipline on traffic stops when they forget their had held and use their WML to read drivers license)
You have the option to find another WML and holster set up that works better
Safariland Alien gear, Veggar and LAS Concealment are some great quality makes
OR simply run without a WML outside of a true duty use WML are way overrated and generally a security blanket in 80 degree weather.
But you do you!
Good luck
PieterCoetzee
Elite
EXACTLY
Another thing we found was that the holster opening was so large that a suspect was able to get his finger inside the holster during a fight and fire the pistol. The incident happened in a hospital ER. Thankfully no one was hurt; but I can only imagine it a a few spicy moments
Folks that are pro WML don’t like to hear things like that
And not the question but an interesting observation I had I was running cadets at the academy here and one stage draw 3 rounds low ready then 4 rounds low ready then 3.
At every low ready every cadet without a WML came all the way down muzzle off meat. Cadets with WML barely came off the sights so instead of pointing at the X ring the muzzle was at the 9 ring (we don’t use B27!” But I use the 10 and 9 ring as a reference)
And I have seen the same thing with 15 year vets as well so it’s across the board and not just new baby cops.
So that tells me you have cops pointing their WML aka gun at things they don’t need to shoot.
And any episode of On Patrol Live will show the same thing!
There are a few that so it right but few and far between
HayesGreener
Ronin
I carry a Surefire 6p in a cargo pocket and have a TLR1 weapon mounted light on my carry guns. The holster is Blackpoint Tactical molded specifically to that gun and light and I have no issues with safety or security. I also have weapon lights on my shotgun, my AR's, and my PCC.
Proper use of the light is a training issue and requires some thought. Using the WML as a regular flashlight is stupid and reflects poor training. That's what a handheld light is for. However, you can light up a room by reflecting the light off the ceiling or wall without covering the people. Like everything else, training makes a difference. In my opinion, a weapon light or tactical handheld should have momentary on, constant on, and off switch. I think strobes overcomplicate things
I worked nights for 7 years of my career. A good light was my most important piece of equipment for officer safety, next to.my firearms.. In SWAT we had Surefire lights mounted on our shotguns and MP5's. Pistol mounted lights had not become prominent then but would have been welcome. It does not have to be night for us to need to look into dark places.
I have attended low light instructor training and have trained many in low light shooting. There is just no comparison between the hit ratio of scores with and without a light. I routinely put "don't shoot" targets in the mix and shooters often killed the don't shoot targets when they had no.light. Target ID is important.
Get the proper equipment and training and a good weapon light adds a dimension to your defensive firearms. Or at least have a good handheld available and master a shooting technique like Harries of FBI with it. Finally, if you are going to use the technology, know how to employ it.
Proper use of the light is a training issue and requires some thought. Using the WML as a regular flashlight is stupid and reflects poor training. That's what a handheld light is for. However, you can light up a room by reflecting the light off the ceiling or wall without covering the people. Like everything else, training makes a difference. In my opinion, a weapon light or tactical handheld should have momentary on, constant on, and off switch. I think strobes overcomplicate things
I worked nights for 7 years of my career. A good light was my most important piece of equipment for officer safety, next to.my firearms.. In SWAT we had Surefire lights mounted on our shotguns and MP5's. Pistol mounted lights had not become prominent then but would have been welcome. It does not have to be night for us to need to look into dark places.
I have attended low light instructor training and have trained many in low light shooting. There is just no comparison between the hit ratio of scores with and without a light. I routinely put "don't shoot" targets in the mix and shooters often killed the don't shoot targets when they had no.light. Target ID is important.
Get the proper equipment and training and a good weapon light adds a dimension to your defensive firearms. Or at least have a good handheld available and master a shooting technique like Harries of FBI with it. Finally, if you are going to use the technology, know how to employ it.
