Range Report: 2 Echelons and a Glock, 6/26/26

[BassCliff]

Hey gang,

Yes, I made it out to the range today, my closer, older facility. I got a late start and wanted to be back in time to take the missus to Friday Fish Fry! You guessed it, I got my favorite lane.

These were the stars of the show today, G17L, Echelon 5.28" Threaded Barrel, and Echelon 4.5F Comp. All three got to try the Winchester NATO and the 115grain Remington. I didn't notice much difference. The NATO might've had a little more "pop".

First up was the Glock with the 6" barrel. Here's the first 15 rounds, it's been a while. You can tell.

I knew I could do better than that, so I taped on a new B-8 center and put 10 hits on it, taking a little more time.

The next 15 rounds punched holes in the 1/3 size USPSA silhouette.

Yeah, not my best work at 10 yards. I'm going to send a target out to 15 yards anyway. I usually do a little better on my favorite target. Here's a 10-shot string.

Meh. If you're generous with the line breaks, all but one is in the 9 ring. Still, I need to work on my consistency. Let's move on to my new pistol, the Echelon 5.28" Threaded Barrel. Here's the maiden voyage target with the first 15 rounds.

Well, I'll be. It's not often I get all of them in the black. Not bad for the initial effort. Let's see if I can keep it up. Let's punch 10 holes in the little silhouette target at 10 yards. (Notice I shortened the nickname to "ET" for "Echelon Threaded".)

OK, the group is not too big, but could be centered a bit more. Let's try a real "aim small, miss small" target. This is the 2" circle with 15 rounds on it.

OK, the first glam shot for my ET.

All things considered, I kind of like that. I wonder if this "ET" is any good at 15 yards. I patched up my favorite target, sent it to 15 yards, and after 10 hits, it came back like this.

Again, I'll beg your indulgence with the line breaks so only one hit is outside the 9 ring. I really think I can do better so I'm going to patch this up again for another try at 15 yards.

Well, about the same, just spread out a little less. But I'm having fun shooting this one so I'm going to use up the extra ammo I have and put 20 more hits at 15 yards.

OK, so now I'm just not paying attention and spreading all over the place. Let's move on to the Echelon 4.5F Comp with its Holosun optic. I'm starting with 15 rounds at 10 yards.

And there you see stereotypical Cliff. Here's 10 rounds at the 2" circle.

I'm pulling the muzzle low with my trigger press. Let's see if I can clean that up. Here's 15 hits on a small silhouette at 10 yards.

Well, that group is smaller than my fist but I'm not ready to adjust the dot. I might shoot it from a rest again to check my zero before blaming anything but me. Even though I'm not really feeling it, let's send a target out to 15 yards again.

Blah. A couple of really bad low/left flyers. But the rest are more centered so I'm sure it's just me. And just to prove it, I'm going to patch up this target one more time and put 20 more hits on it at 15 yards.

Hmmm. I let three get off the 8" reactive circle. But the rest are a fist sized group. Not to worry. I'm going to take these three out again at least a couple more times so's we can get reacquainted really well.

After I packed up my kit, I went perusing the display counter. This golden/copper/bronze/FDE/coyote tan pistol caught my eye.

If I was really a Glock fan I would've been mighty tempted. I know it's just a Glock, but it's still kind of pretty, don't you think? I was told this is the military contract version of the G19. If they'd make a Gen 6 version in this color, ...nah. Never mind. I gotta get home and take Mrs. BassCliff out for some fish fry. I hope everyone has a great weekend. Blessings to all.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[rcurtner]

Hey gang,

Yes, I made it out to the range today, my closer, older facility. I got a late start and wanted to be back in time to take the missus to Friday Fish Fry! You guessed it, I got my favorite lane.

These were the stars of the show today, G17L, Echelon 5.28" Threaded Barrel, and Echelon 4.5F Comp. All three got to try the Winchester NATO and the 115grain Remington. I didn't notice much difference. The NATO might've had a little more "pop".

First up was the Glock with the 6" barrel. Here's the first 15 rounds, it's been a while. You can tell.

I knew I could do better than that, so I taped on a new B-8 center and put 10 hits on it, taking a little more time.

The next 15 rounds punched holes in the 1/3 size USPSA silhouette.

Yeah, not my best work at 10 yards. I'm going to send a target out to 15 yards anyway. I usually do a little better on my favorite target. Here's a 10-shot string.

Meh. If you're generous with the line breaks, all but one is in the 9 ring. Still, I need to work on my consistency. Let's move on to my new pistol, the Echelon 5.28" Threaded Barrel. Here's the maiden voyage target with the first 15 rounds.

Well, I'll be. It's not often I get all of them in the black. Not bad for the initial effort. Let's see if I can keep it up. Let's punch 10 holes in the little silhouette target at 10 yards. (Notice I shortened the nickname to "ET" for "Echelon Threaded".)

OK, the group is not too big, but could be centered a bit more. Let's try a real "aim small, miss small" target. This is the 2" circle with 15 rounds on it.

OK, the first glam shot for my ET.

All things considered, I kind of like that. I wonder if this "ET" is any good at 15 yards. I patched up my favorite target, sent it to 15 yards, and after 10 hits, it came back like this.

Again, I'll beg your indulgence with the line breaks so only one hit is outside the 9 ring. I really think I can do better so I'm going to patch this up again for another try at 15 yards.

Well, about the same, just spread out a little less. But I'm having fun shooting this one so I'm going to use up the extra ammo I have and put 20 more hits at 15 yards.

OK, so now I'm just not paying attention and spreading all over the place. Let's move on to the Echelon 4.5F Comp with its Holosun optic. I'm starting with 15 rounds at 10 yards.

And there you see stereotypical Cliff. Here's 10 rounds at the 2" circle.

I'm pulling the muzzle low with my trigger press. Let's see if I can clean that up. Here's 15 hits on a small silhouette at 10 yards.

Well, that group is smaller than my fist but I'm not ready to adjust the dot. I might shoot it from a rest again to check my zero before blaming anything but me. Even though I'm not really feeling it, let's send a target out to 15 yards again.

Blah. A couple of really bad low/left flyers. But the rest are more centered so I'm sure it's just me. And just to prove it, I'm going to patch up this target one more time and put 20 more hits on it at 15 yards.

Hmmm. I let three get off the 8" reactive circle. But the rest are a fist sized group. Not to worry. I'm going to take these three out again at least a couple more times so's we can get reacquainted really well.

After I packed up my kit, I went perusing the display counter. This golden/copper/bronze/FDE/coyote tan pistol caught my eye.

If I was really a Glock fan I would've been mighty tempted. I know it's just a Glock, but it's still kind of pretty, don't you think? I was told this is the military contract version of the G19. If they'd make a Gen 6 version in this color, ...nah. Never mind. I gotta get home and take Mrs. BassCliff out for some fish fry. I hope everyone has a great weekend. Blessings to all.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

Not bad at all Cliff. Haven't fired a round in over 4 months medical issues and weather haven't been kind to me and especially the wife.. Lots of rain, high temps (90"s) humidity (70-80%) are just too much for this old rascal. Don't know when I'll go again hopefully sooner than later. Sure wish we had an indoor range think the closet one is over a hundred miles from me. Keep at it buddy you're getting better and having fun.

 

[NMEDGE]

Good shooting Cliff! I like the tan Glock also!

 

[Belt Fed]

Good job agent, that 19x is a good shooter, i have a couple. but it don't have a cut slide and threaded barrel. which if you don't ever plan on putting an optic or suppressor on it then it's not needed.

 

[TurboDog910]

As always nice shooting and thanks for the write up.
That 19x or v is sharp.

 

[Joel66]

Nice shooting. I look forward to your range trip posts

 

[Annihilator]

Hey gang,

Yes, I made it out to the range today, my closer, older facility. I got a late start and wanted to be back in time to take the missus to Friday Fish Fry! You guessed it, I got my favorite lane.

These were the stars of the show today, G17L, Echelon 5.28" Threaded Barrel, and Echelon 4.5F Comp. All three got to try the Winchester NATO and the 115grain Remington. I didn't notice much difference. The NATO might've had a little more "pop".

First up was the Glock with the 6" barrel. Here's the first 15 rounds, it's been a while. You can tell.

I knew I could do better than that, so I taped on a new B-8 center and put 10 hits on it, taking a little more time.

The next 15 rounds punched holes in the 1/3 size USPSA silhouette.

Yeah, not my best work at 10 yards. I'm going to send a target out to 15 yards anyway. I usually do a little better on my favorite target. Here's a 10-shot string.

Meh. If you're generous with the line breaks, all but one is in the 9 ring. Still, I need to work on my consistency. Let's move on to my new pistol, the Echelon 5.28" Threaded Barrel. Here's the maiden voyage target with the first 15 rounds.

Well, I'll be. It's not often I get all of them in the black. Not bad for the initial effort. Let's see if I can keep it up. Let's punch 10 holes in the little silhouette target at 10 yards. (Notice I shortened the nickname to "ET" for "Echelon Threaded".)

OK, the group is not too big, but could be centered a bit more. Let's try a real "aim small, miss small" target. This is the 2" circle with 15 rounds on it.

OK, the first glam shot for my ET.

All things considered, I kind of like that. I wonder if this "ET" is any good at 15 yards. I patched up my favorite target, sent it to 15 yards, and after 10 hits, it came back like this.

Again, I'll beg your indulgence with the line breaks so only one hit is outside the 9 ring. I really think I can do better so I'm going to patch this up again for another try at 15 yards.

Well, about the same, just spread out a little less. But I'm having fun shooting this one so I'm going to use up the extra ammo I have and put 20 more hits at 15 yards.

OK, so now I'm just not paying attention and spreading all over the place. Let's move on to the Echelon 4.5F Comp with its Holosun optic. I'm starting with 15 rounds at 10 yards.

And there you see stereotypical Cliff. Here's 10 rounds at the 2" circle.

I'm pulling the muzzle low with my trigger press. Let's see if I can clean that up. Here's 15 hits on a small silhouette at 10 yards.

Well, that group is smaller than my fist but I'm not ready to adjust the dot. I might shoot it from a rest again to check my zero before blaming anything but me. Even though I'm not really feeling it, let's send a target out to 15 yards again.

Blah. A couple of really bad low/left flyers. But the rest are more centered so I'm sure it's just me. And just to prove it, I'm going to patch up this target one more time and put 20 more hits on it at 15 yards.

Hmmm. I let three get off the 8" reactive circle. But the rest are a fist sized group. Not to worry. I'm going to take these three out again at least a couple more times so's we can get reacquainted really well.

After I packed up my kit, I went perusing the display counter. This golden/copper/bronze/FDE/coyote tan pistol caught my eye.

If I was really a Glock fan I would've been mighty tempted. I know it's just a Glock, but it's still kind of pretty, don't you think? I was told this is the military contract version of the G19. If they'd make a Gen 6 version in this color, ...nah. Never mind. I gotta get home and take Mrs. BassCliff out for some fish fry. I hope everyone has a great weekend. Blessings to all.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

FYI, the G19 isn’t a military contract gun, it was submitted for the trials to pick a successor to the Beretta M9, others were also submitted and the Sig M17 was finally selected. The G19x has a G17 frame mated to a G19 slide, very good pistol, but some early ones had slight issues field stripping them.

 

[TurboDog910]

If the coyote is your thing Glock did make a limited run of the 43x with updated optics mounting. I have the older version.

 

[Jester560]

Good shootin' and nice writeup as always!

 

[hworth18]

Good shooting sir!!! The Echelon really is underrated in its reliability and accuracy, which are superior to me.

 

[Annihilator]

Hey gang,

Yes, I made it out to the range today, my closer, older facility. I got a late start and wanted to be back in time to take the missus to Friday Fish Fry! You guessed it, I got my favorite lane.

These were the stars of the show today, G17L, Echelon 5.28" Threaded Barrel, and Echelon 4.5F Comp. All three got to try the Winchester NATO and the 115grain Remington. I didn't notice much difference. The NATO might've had a little more "pop".

First up was the Glock with the 6" barrel. Here's the first 15 rounds, it's been a while. You can tell.

I knew I could do better than that, so I taped on a new B-8 center and put 10 hits on it, taking a little more time.

The next 15 rounds punched holes in the 1/3 size USPSA silhouette.

Yeah, not my best work at 10 yards. I'm going to send a target out to 15 yards anyway. I usually do a little better on my favorite target. Here's a 10-shot string.

Meh. If you're generous with the line breaks, all but one is in the 9 ring. Still, I need to work on my consistency. Let's move on to my new pistol, the Echelon 5.28" Threaded Barrel. Here's the maiden voyage target with the first 15 rounds.

Well, I'll be. It's not often I get all of them in the black. Not bad for the initial effort. Let's see if I can keep it up. Let's punch 10 holes in the little silhouette target at 10 yards. (Notice I shortened the nickname to "ET" for "Echelon Threaded".)

OK, the group is not too big, but could be centered a bit more. Let's try a real "aim small, miss small" target. This is the 2" circle with 15 rounds on it.

OK, the first glam shot for my ET.

All things considered, I kind of like that. I wonder if this "ET" is any good at 15 yards. I patched up my favorite target, sent it to 15 yards, and after 10 hits, it came back like this.

Again, I'll beg your indulgence with the line breaks so only one hit is outside the 9 ring. I really think I can do better so I'm going to patch this up again for another try at 15 yards.

Well, about the same, just spread out a little less. But I'm having fun shooting this one so I'm going to use up the extra ammo I have and put 20 more hits at 15 yards.

OK, so now I'm just not paying attention and spreading all over the place. Let's move on to the Echelon 4.5F Comp with its Holosun optic. I'm starting with 15 rounds at 10 yards.

And there you see stereotypical Cliff. Here's 10 rounds at the 2" circle.

I'm pulling the muzzle low with my trigger press. Let's see if I can clean that up. Here's 15 hits on a small silhouette at 10 yards.

Well, that group is smaller than my fist but I'm not ready to adjust the dot. I might shoot it from a rest again to check my zero before blaming anything but me. Even though I'm not really feeling it, let's send a target out to 15 yards again.

Blah. A couple of really bad low/left flyers. But the rest are more centered so I'm sure it's just me. And just to prove it, I'm going to patch up this target one more time and put 20 more hits on it at 15 yards.

Hmmm. I let three get off the 8" reactive circle. But the rest are a fist sized group. Not to worry. I'm going to take these three out again at least a couple more times so's we can get reacquainted really well.

After I packed up my kit, I went perusing the display counter. This golden/copper/bronze/FDE/coyote tan pistol caught my eye.

If I was really a Glock fan I would've been mighty tempted. I know it's just a Glock, but it's still kind of pretty, don't you think? I was told this is the military contract version of the G19. If they'd make a Gen 6 version in this color, ...nah. Never mind. I gotta get home and take Mrs. BassCliff out for some fish fry. I hope everyone has a great weekend. Blessings to all.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

BTW, good shooting!

 

[BassCliff]

Hi

Not bad at all Cliff. Haven't fired a round in over 4 months medical issues and weather haven't been kind to me and especially the wife.. Lots of rain, high temps (90"s) humidity (70-80%) are just too much for this old rascal. Don't know when I'll go again hopefully sooner than later. Sure wish we had an indoor range think the closet one is over a hundred miles from me. Keep at it buddy you're getting better and having fun.

I do remember you and your missus in my prayers occasionally. I hope you're both on the mend. Blessings of healing, strength, and comfort to you both.

My indoor ranges are convenient in the winter, or inclement weather. While the lobby has A/C, the range itself does not. It can get warm in there. The big fans are handy, but there's no A/C on the firing line. But I guess it's better than being in the heat under the sun. I keep telling myself that I'm gong to visit one of the outdoor ranges in the area, but I haven't made it yet.

Thanks for the encouragement. Sometimes I feel like I'm getting better, but other times I feel like I'm just keeping up with my mediocrity.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[BassCliff]

Hi,

Good shooting Cliff! I like the tan Glock also!

Aww, thanks. I'm hoping a little more practice with these units will render more accuracy. We'll see.

That "golden" Glock just sort of stood out amongst all the black pistols. I've got one Glock. I think that's enough.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[BassCliff]

Hi,

Good job agent, that 19x is a good shooter, i have a couple. but it don't have a cut slide and threaded barrel. which if you don't ever plan on putting an optic or suppressor on it then it's not needed.

Thanks.

I thought of you when I saw the color. I don't know. IF they were to make that pistol in a Gen6 version, with an optic cut, with a threaded barrel, then maybe. I just thought it was pretty.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[BassCliff]

Hi guys,

As always nice shooting and thanks for the write up.
That 19x or v is sharp.

I don't know about "always". Yes, that "gold" G19X just caught my eye. Is the "V" for "Gen5"?

Nice shooting. I look forward to your range trip posts

I appreciate that. I like to share my fun, or frustrations, with the class. Some folks have been really helpful trying to improve my accuracy. I hope others have learned from my mistakes.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[BassCliff]

Hi Anni,

FYI, the G19 isn’t a military contract gun, it was submitted for the trials to pick a successor to the Beretta M9, others were also submitted and the Sig M17 was finally selected. The G19x has a G17 frame mated to a G19 slide, very good pistol, but some early ones had slight issues field stripping them.

Thanks for that info. I might've mispoken what the clerk told me about the G19X. I do recall that the Sig got the nod for the military's new duty pistol. The G19X lost out.

I fondled the G19X while I was there. I liked the full size grip, like my G17L. I'm going to take it out again next week and try to do a little better.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[BassCliff]

Hi,

If the coyote is your thing Glock did make a limited run of the 43x with updated optics mounting. I have the older version.View attachment 113483

That looks nice. But I'm really lousy with anything less than a 4" barrel. I guess a 3.5" barrel would be a little easier to carry concealed, but I have enough "tactical girth" to hide a little bigger barrel. That extra half inch really makes a difference for me and my sight radius. Seems half my pistols are 5" to 6" in length. Not to brag or anything.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[Belt Fed]

I don't know. IF they were to make that pistol in a Gen6 version, with an optic cut, with a threaded barrel,

Yes they do. i have a V model with threaded barrel and optic cut

 

[BassCliff]

Hello gents,

Good shootin' and nice writeup as always!

I appreciate that. I guess you could say that I'm getting pretty good at writing about my mediore marksmanchip. I appreciate the kind words. Thanks for the feedback.

Good shooting sir!!! The Echelon really is underrated in its reliability and accuracy, which are superior to me.

For some reason the threaded barrel Echelon feels much better than the 4.5F Comp. I really like the included iron sights on the 5.28" TB. I'm still not quite used to the Holosun on the 4.5. I did not like the U-notch rear sight on the 4.5, hence the move to the optic. I'm still working with it. I liked the trigger better on the threaded barrel as well. I thought they'd have the same trigger. Maybe it's just differences in the tolerences. I'll take them both out next week for another run. Thanks for stopping by.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[BassCliff]

Hey!

Yes they do. i have a V model with threaded barrel and optic cut

View attachment 113491

Tempting, tempting. You're such an enabler. That threaded barrel with optic cut, be still my beating heart.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff