reloading questions/advice if you would please?
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Jester560
Custom
Maybe not that purty
Old_Me
SAINT
well, i finished my 45 ACP reloading
i only needed to get to 2,000 rounds, but i didn't want to use only 50 primers, and put the rest of them back in the inventory, so now my stock of 45's is 2050 rounds.
so, i "should be" good till maybe around sept/oct, before i have to reload again.
i only needed to get to 2,000 rounds, but i didn't want to use only 50 primers, and put the rest of them back in the inventory, so now my stock of 45's is 2050 rounds.
so, i "should be" good till maybe around sept/oct, before i have to reload again.
Old_Me
SAINT
well, if all goes well...most likely not thanks to FedWrex, i'll be getting my Berrys Bullets wednesday, the 8th, by 8 PM..
you see, i ordered them on April 3rd.....with a delivery date of monday the 7th.
ya know, 2 day delivery BS..??
they were stuck in Henderson, NV for a while.
it could be worse i suppose...
they could have went from Utah, to NM, to China, to VT, to FL then to me.............
you see, i ordered them on April 3rd.....with a delivery date of monday the 7th.
ya know, 2 day delivery BS..??
they were stuck in Henderson, NV for a while.
it could be worse i suppose...
they could have went from Utah, to NM, to China, to VT, to FL then to me.............
youngolddude
Professional
My last delivery came on the 3rd estimated day/window. I hate being tied down for hours for something I have to sign for.
Old_Me
SAINT
ok, i got a question or 2, maybe more.
i had to pull some 45 ACP bullets today, just a short time ago.
1 box of 50 rounds
45 ACP, .451 dia, 230 gr, copper coated, Everglades brand.
press, DIllon 550C, with Lee decapper die, Lee seating die, and Dillon crimp/taper die
seating depth to 1.172 +/-...this cycles great for all my 45's (not just 1911's)
ok, as i was using the kinetic puller, "some" took like 5-7 whacks, and the bullets came out
some took up to 20 whacks before the bullets came out......obviously too tight a crimp, but why..???
now, i am only removing the flare, and just enough for the cartridge to "plunk" in the Lyman gauge block.
now, seating the bullets, its a very smooth operation, no force needed to seat them
when removing the flare for the taper crimp, a smooth operation as well, no force needed to get this done.
in fact, i WAS previously using the Lee FCD, and THAT one was actually difficult and needed force to run the cartridge up into the die and to remove it from the die, which i why i went with Dillon crimp die, long ago.....
so these copper coated bullets and the "lipstick" bullets have never been thru the Lee FCD..!!
ok, background and specs given....
any idea on why so many whacks of the puller to remove SOME of the bullets, but not all of them, when they were reloaded on the same day....???
with NO adjustments to the die to cause this..?????
thanks in advance
i had to pull some 45 ACP bullets today, just a short time ago.
1 box of 50 rounds
45 ACP, .451 dia, 230 gr, copper coated, Everglades brand.
press, DIllon 550C, with Lee decapper die, Lee seating die, and Dillon crimp/taper die
seating depth to 1.172 +/-...this cycles great for all my 45's (not just 1911's)
ok, as i was using the kinetic puller, "some" took like 5-7 whacks, and the bullets came out
some took up to 20 whacks before the bullets came out......obviously too tight a crimp, but why..???
now, i am only removing the flare, and just enough for the cartridge to "plunk" in the Lyman gauge block.
now, seating the bullets, its a very smooth operation, no force needed to seat them
when removing the flare for the taper crimp, a smooth operation as well, no force needed to get this done.
in fact, i WAS previously using the Lee FCD, and THAT one was actually difficult and needed force to run the cartridge up into the die and to remove it from the die, which i why i went with Dillon crimp die, long ago.....
so these copper coated bullets and the "lipstick" bullets have never been thru the Lee FCD..!!
ok, background and specs given....
any idea on why so many whacks of the puller to remove SOME of the bullets, but not all of them, when they were reloaded on the same day....???
with NO adjustments to the die to cause this..?????
thanks in advance
Jester560
Custom
Different brass thickness from different manufacturers maybe?
Old_Me
SAINT
could be, i do have new Starline Brass, as well as my first fired name branded brass
shanneba
Custom
I would probably start at about 12.0 gr and not go over 14.0 gr.
I looked at my Lyman 50th manual, it does list pressures from a Universal receiver with a 4" barrel.
With Federal cases, CCI 550 primer and 1.590" OAL, it shows for the Hornady 158gr JHP #35750 bullet:
N110 STARTING 11.5 grains 851 fps 21,800 CUP pressure
N110 MAX 14.0 grains 1139 fps 38,200 CUP pressure.
The SAAMI specs for 357 Magnum pressure and a 158 gr bullet shows 45,000 max service CUP
Old_Me
SAINT
i pulled a few more of those 45 ACP's..this morning
strangely (??)...made no difference the new Starline Brass or first fired brass....(so brass thickness not an issue??)
some were maybe up to 5 whacks with the puller, a few were maybe up to 10.....??
i am not understanding this BS...the Dillon crimp/taper die was set to Dillons video specs, much like the Lee die, very little effort to remove the taper, with the Dillon die, over the Lee die which "took effort" to pull the handle, nearly every cycle into the taper die...Dillon taper die, buttery smooth operation.
cartridges "plunked" as perfect as possible each time with the Dillon die
each gun that shoots 45 ACP, loaded fine.
each brand new Everglades .451 copper RN coated bullet seated with no effort in the seating die.
i could be wrong, but had a few .452 bullets been in that mix from Everglades, shouldn't I have had a different feel to seating them..??..should i have seen copper shavings..?? as it is, the flaring die in the powder drop just barely flares as much as Dillon says...they say at least .010" to .017" flare, i got the flare at like maybe .005" to .007"??
strangely (??)...made no difference the new Starline Brass or first fired brass....(so brass thickness not an issue??)
some were maybe up to 5 whacks with the puller, a few were maybe up to 10.....??
i am not understanding this BS...the Dillon crimp/taper die was set to Dillons video specs, much like the Lee die, very little effort to remove the taper, with the Dillon die, over the Lee die which "took effort" to pull the handle, nearly every cycle into the taper die...Dillon taper die, buttery smooth operation.
cartridges "plunked" as perfect as possible each time with the Dillon die
each gun that shoots 45 ACP, loaded fine.
each brand new Everglades .451 copper RN coated bullet seated with no effort in the seating die.
i could be wrong, but had a few .452 bullets been in that mix from Everglades, shouldn't I have had a different feel to seating them..??..should i have seen copper shavings..?? as it is, the flaring die in the powder drop just barely flares as much as Dillon says...they say at least .010" to .017" flare, i got the flare at like maybe .005" to .007"??
youngolddude
Professional
I don't know if you would feel a difference of .001" in your press. If your Dillon dies work that well, you can stop using the Lee FCD. Most of my brass I got was used of unknown history. I used the FCD to have more usable loads and then had to run some through a bulge buster. Even then, some wouldn't go in the case gauge. I do RN at 1.23" and less for SWC. I tried to plunk with a barrel, but the case gauge was more discriminating. The .45 ACP is the fussiest round I load, at lease with the brass I have.