Send it to the nice gentleman that offered to pay shipping, jumpinjoe I believe. He will give it a good home. And likely get a great press eventually. I'll bet he will spend the few minutes it takes to craft a polite email to Lee inquiring and I bet a dollar to a donut gets a positive response and a positive outcome and voila, the great press expected. Don't waste a perfectly good press out of spite or whatever when there's someone who wants it and will appreciate it. I'd probably make the same offer as well.
i'm a "nice gentleman" too
Old_Me, I don't believe you were asked to GIVE anything to anyone. The offer was if you'd send it to me, I'd devote however much of my time was required to try to find/fix your problems, then send it back to you, NO CHARGE. And on the other hand, if you truly did not want it, rather than destroying it, I would pay for shipping to me. Your only effort would be to box it up and address it. And even though it wasn't stipulated, if I had found the problem and fix, I likely would have sent it back to you anyway if you decided to want it. Enough about the press! You have many times stated just how much you like the "Lee" carbide dies and how well they work for you ... even on your Dillon press. I have no idea what other "Lee" accessories you may be using, but I don't recall you ever having much trouble with any with them. And "Lee" brand of powder handling tools is widely accepted and acknowledged as some of the most accurate in the industry. So, I guess my question, if I had one, would be how much trouble do you have with any other "Lee" pieces? Or is your bad attitude about "Lee" products based solely on the experiences with this press? I simply can't understand why anyone would trash an entire company, one that 10's of 1,000's of other customers have had good service with, based on their experience with one product that was bought 2nd hand and with no knowledge of what may or may not have happened to/with it before they bought it? And just for information, much of my 60 year working career was spent turning wrenches. I never once bought a SnapOn, not because I didn't like them, but because it made no sense to me to buy the pretty wrenches at 3 times the cost of others just as good, albeit not as pretty. I'm pretty proud of my collection of SK Wayne (once American made) and others, some I've had and used for most of that career. But I've never trashed any brand of any product based on my experience with just one piece. Nor have I ever asked anyone to GIVE me anything not warranted. I'm not considered a "deadbeat" nor a "jerkwad" in any circle I'm involved with, and don't believe I gave you even one second of "crappola" in all the many conversations we've had discussing your issues with this press, and/or with the topic of reloading in general.
You've got an attitude alright. And hate to break it to you but at least based on this thread examples maybe not as nice as you believe. But whatever. You won't be troubled any more with attempts to help you achieve a positive outcome since you don't care for them. Bye.
that's right a truckers and mechanics attitude, as well as person living in an area where people roam the streets at night, enter your yard to pee, puke, and whatever else, as well as deadbeat renters that live in the area that trash the neighborhood, start fires, drive-by shootings.....
I'm always ready, willing and usually able to help anyone wanting to get into the reloading hobby. Please know that anyway I can help, don't hesitate to ask. I may not have the answer, but even if not I'll help get the answer for you. I'm going to include a couple pictures here for you to review that may/may not give you some ideas about getting set up. My wife and I sold out our home of almost 40 years and moved into a retirement community about 7 years ago. We came from a nearly 2,000 sq' home to an 1,100 sq' apartment so space was at a premium. Scaling down on everything was mandatory. At the old homestead I had a separate bedroom for my office, a very minor work shop for small projects, and my dedicated reloading room. I had a lot of storage in my 2 1/2 car garage, but did all my actual loading in my back room. So, I had a giant work table set up with several presses of various types and uses including shotgun loading. But when we got here to the community ( I prefer to call it the institution
) I no longer had the luxury of a dedicated room for my reloading and had to make some changes. In the process, I knew there would never be enough room for another giant work table as I had before, so with some thought I came up with the idea of a small, movable cart for my loading supplies and tools. I bought a small 18" x 30" roller cart from Harbor Freight, added some X bracing to the legs using galvanized tension bars used for chain link fencing, added a plywood work top to about 1/3 of the top, and loaded it up with presses, powder measures, scales, etc. Every tool has it's place on the work top and is easily removed/replaced either with a couple screws, and eventually bought and installed the "Lee" mounting plate to all my presses for extra quick move/remove. These pictures just happened to have been taken when the 'O' frame, Challenger press was in use. The set-up has almost unlimited potential, except for unlimited space. But I also stole a corner of my closet, installed a couple shelves and again have a little extra space for storage. With this set-up I can move my cart over to a corner of the den and out of the way, but then simply pull it out and roll it to wherever I want to sit down and start loading. I often move it to the living room to watch TV while de-capping, etc, but rarely if ever combine TV watching with loading. Just thought it might be a little food for thought in getting set-up for your new venture. Regards, jjI don't even have room to do that but I do like it and it looks like it would work well. And that Lee is likely my eventual "real" press if/when I declutter enough to do something like that. Thanks for sharing that. It's interesting.I'm always ready, willing and usually able to help anyone wanting to get into the reloading hobby. Please know that anyway I can help, don't hesitate to ask. I may not have the answer, but even if not I'll help get the answer for you. I'm going to include a couple pictures here for you to review that may/may not give you some ideas about getting set up. My wife and I sold out our home of almost 40 years and moved into a retirement community about 7 years ago. We came from a nearly 2,000 sq' home to an 1,100 sq' apartment so space was at a premium. Scaling down on everything was mandatory. At the old homestead I had a separate bedroom for my office, a very minor work shop for small projects, and my dedicated reloading room. I had a lot of storage in my 2 1/2 car garage, but did all my actual loading in my back room. So, I had a giant work table set up with several presses of various types and uses including shotgun loading. But when we got here to the community ( I prefer to call it the institution
