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SUPREME COURT DENIES CERT IN 18-20 CARRY CASE

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https://saf.org/supreme-court-denies-cert-in-18-20-carry-case-saf-win-stands/

This is awesome. So now in PA 18-20 year old's can get carry permits. And PA doesn't have any crazy requirements to get a permit. $20 and an application. I still want constitutional carry and I think permits are a from of facism, but, it is a step in the right direction for rights of PA Citizens.

BELLEVUE, Wash. — June 30, 2026 — The U.S. Supreme Court handed the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) a victory today by declining to hear a case brought by the organization to vindicate the firearm carry rights of young adults in Pennsylvania. By refusing to take the case, SAF’s victory in Third Circuit Court of Appeals is now final.

The Third Circuit twice ruled in SAF’s favor, finding that adults under 21 are indeed members of “the People” as contemplated by the Second Amendment, and therefore enjoy the same scope of rights as all other adults. The ruling struck down a portion of Pennsylvania’s carry regime which prevented young adults from being able to carry firearms during declared states of emergency.
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Hmmmmm? 18 is old enuf to go to war; but thats after basic and with adult supervision.

Ive seen far too many 18 year olds that give me pause. Hell Im not even sure they should be allowed to vote, without some sort of citizenship test
 
Guys this isnt about owning a gun, Its about carrying the gun CONCEALED.

Its about being able to make critical decisions in stressful situations, IDK? Admittedly I know plenty of 21 year olds that have made questionable decisions.

The brain hasnt finished forming at that age. Look at how many junior gang bangers there are running around.
 
Retired Bum said:
or be employed by the police department
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Plenty of PDs hire 18 year olds as cadets to see how they preform it what is likely their first real job. NO they dont give them gun or sent them out of call; but they learn the workings of PD admin. They can do school crossing details etc. Many/Most have a head start when they do graduate from the academy because they "know" stuff
 
KillerFord1977 said:
You know that answer before you even asked it
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Yeah brother this is just another issue we'll have to disagree but hopefully do it in good comradery. We come at issues from our experiences and no doubt mine have been skewed by working where I did. I truly hope the rest of the country is different; but its hard for me to accept that

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PieterCoetzee said:
Yes I do too; Buuuuut.....
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There is always a but. That’s how we lost a lot of our freedoms. If a 18 year old doesn’t take the time to know the laws and responsibilities of carrying a firearm he or she will suffer the consequences. My son has carried since he was 16 ( no not legally) but there is the old saying better to ask for forgiveness than permission. He had years of teaching from me. I went with him the day he turned 21 to get his GWL. I have known the judge her how life. She knew my son his whole life she gave him a hard time for being my son. We still set and go through situations of whether it would be legal to use deadly force.
 
Im certain there are more good kids then bad, and no doubt my experiences with the Buttheads has jaundiced me; but I also know even good kids still think like kids. I saw that in the ARMY and the Street, too many new emotions and raging hormones.

The Law is what the Law is. I get that
 
Retired Bum said:
18 or 21. Pick an age of adulthood. A young man or woman can enter the military service at 18, but can't buy or carry a gun to defend themselves, or be employed by the police department, but they can vote or go to war.....

Makes no sense to me at all.
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TBH, I’m a big believer in no voting until 21…if not 25. But not sure even that would stop the current surge of “democratic” socialists winning primaries all over the Country.

18 to enter the military has set many a folk, myself included, on a great path through life. There is no draft ATM, so nobody “has” to go into the military. If folks were getting drafted and then not being able to drink or buy certain guns, I might see it as a problem, but not today.

I have no doubt if I had not entered the military and learned solid nutrition, fitness, what I was actually capable of under stress, etc., at 18, I would have probably have been dead long before now. And to be totally honest, when I volunteered it was 90% to get out of the house and away from the then environment.

BUT - I know the first concealed carry course I went through a while back, there were more than a few salt and pepper haired men and women in that class who had no business handling a firearm without some serious one on one training (which they may or may not have gotten - big class, two instructors). Age is NOT an indicator of ability.
 
My contention is not the age of consent being 18, but rather this is 18, but that's 21, or something else. If you are 18 years old, you can do whatever an adult can do.

It's not my fault the parents didn't raise their kids to be adults...
 
Retired Bum said:
My contention is not the age of consent being 18, but rather this is 18, but that's 21, or something else. If you are 18 years old, you can do whatever an adult can do.

It's not my fault the parents didn't raise their kids to be adults...
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Your right its not your fault but it may turn out to be what we have to deal with when the 18 year olds who were not raised to be adults are soon to be legally carrying.
 
PieterCoetzee said:
Im certain there are more good kids then bad, and no doubt my experiences with the Buttheads has jaundiced me; but I also know even good kids still think like kids. I saw that in the ARMY and the Street, too many new emotions and raging hormones.

The Law is what the Law is. I get that
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I agree that not all 18 year olds are responsible enough to carry a firearm. But that shouldn’t stop the ones who are from getting that freedom.
 
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