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the Supreme Court struck down Hawaii’s rule that banned carrying guns on most private property that is open to the public

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For years, the State of Hawaii made it almost impossible to obtain a li
cense to carry a firearm. Four years ago, however, this Court held in
New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn., Inc. v. Bruen, 597 U. S. 1, that the
Second and Fourteenth Amendments protect the right to carry hand
guns outside the home for self-defense. Hawaii responded by replacing
its old law on carry permits with new laws that achieved a similar re
sult. At issue in this case is a Hawaii law that prohibits firearms on
private property open to the public without the express and affirmative
consent of the property owner. Hawaii’s new rule imposes severe re
strictions on the daily activities of residents who have satisfied the
State’s rigorous requirements for the issuance of a carry permit. When
these permit holders leave home, not only must they take care to avoid
all the territory where the possession of a gun is prohibited outright,
but they may also be barred from entering many places that people
routinely visit in the course of their daily routines, such as gas sta
tions, restaurants, and stores. This law flips the default rule at com
mon law, under which anyone has an implied license to enter property
held open to the public unless the property owner withdraws consent.
In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U. S. 570, this Court held that
the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear
arms, with the Amendment’s “central” concern being the fundamental
right of self-defense. Id., at 577. Heller instructed courts to ascertain
the scope of the right by looking to history and emphatically rejected
an ahistorical “judge-empowering ‘interest-balancing inquiry.’ ” Id., at
634. The Court later held in McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U. S. 742, that
the Second Amendment right applies equally to the Federal
Government and the States through the Fourteenth Amendment, set
tling the question whether the Second Amendment embodies a uni
form national standard or one that varies from one locale to another.

 
Good news in blue HI.
I went to the doctor this week. There was a prominently displayed large yellow sign that said 'firearms prohibited'. I usually ignore those signs in AZ as the state adopted its own version of LEOSA years ago for honorably retired federal, state, county and city LEO with a few exceptions., basically anywhere I could before I retired, except where prohibited by federal law, into court or a jail or while consuming alcohol in a bar or restaurant.
What stuck out was the sign quoted a state liquor law related to firearms prohibited. So the sign carried no legal weight for anyone unless the doctors office was serving alcohol to be consumed on the premises. This isn't the first time I've seen this in northern AZ also saw the same sign at the regional hospital, and a privately owned facility that hosts public events,ie gun shows, music shows, athletic events, etc. The private property owners are probably following the requirements of their insurance companies. But they're using the wrong revised statute. I'm not going to tell them their signage isn't worth the paper the sign is printed on.
 
This was a great ruling.
The problem is, now we need a good court case that just eliminates the no gun zones altogether
Because now they will just create a law and signage that owners can post and bam, they're limited again.
We really need SCOTUS to just actually enforce the 2nd and do away with the no gun signs altogether.
Of course, that means a case needs to get in front of them.
 
Here in Georgia, a sign on the door holds no legal meaning. But if the owner of the property sees your firearm and asks you to leave, you must leave or you can be charged with trespassing.
PA is the same way. Unfortunately, some states, as long as they are worded and posted correctly, the sign does is law
 
I just read the courts opinion in this case, in its entirety. I have not read the dissenting opinions. I thought it interesting that one of Hawaii's analogous laws from history was a Louisiana statute from 1865 that made it unlawful to carry a weapon on the plantation of another without the consent of the owner or their agent. Go figure!
That’s what I understand as well. The law was passed to prevent slaves/blacks from possessing guns. Leave it to the left to use old racist laws to promote their argument.
 
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