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last2brake said:
I just figured SA were a bunch of paper-saving managers who think more about the bottom-line than they do their customers.
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probably why now, most S/A guns are boxed in cardboard, not the nice clamshell cases many others come in.

i always save ALL my boxes, or clamshell cases, as well as those EL Cheapo, Made in Chinesium cable locks, for when i go and sell any of my guns.

just gives the next person the "complete OEM deal"
 
Old_Me said:
probably why now, most S/A guns are boxed in cardboard, not the nice clamshell cases many others come in.

i always save ALL my boxes, or clamshell cases, as well as those EL Cheapo, Made in Chinesium cable locks, for when i go and sell any of my guns.

just gives the next person the "complete OEM deal"
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Same here, I keep everything, it’s just amazing that for the price we pay for the guns, they go cheap on the boxes, no manuals, I remember years ago S&W used to give you cleaning accessories, but they sure as hades make sure they give you that stupid lock which is totally useless….
 
When I bought a Glock, I got cleaning accessories, a (plastic) hard case, and included parts diagrams that were clearly readable on quality paper with it.

I didn't realize that decent documentation wasn't the even the bare minimum until I bought a gun from Springfield. And, of course, I needed it right away and the quality of documentation was so 5h-itty it was useless.

As far as first impressions go, when Glock outshines Springfield Armory at the moment you open the box, it highlights SA's inferiority. That bad first impression takes a long time to recover from. There are too many other choices. Too bad, I like the actual guns. That's too bad.

Since then, I think I've bought at least four pistols from SA's competitors ( mini-revolver from North American, a .38 and a .22 from S&W, and a .44 from Ruger ). It just highlights SA's shortcomings. From the first moment you open the box.

They didn't save the dollars from all the money that I spent on their competitors, but they saved a few cents on the last gun I bought from them.

Bean counters do nothing for quality.
 
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last2brake said:
When I bought a Glock, I got cleaning accessories, a (plastic) hard case, and included parts diagrams that were clearly readable on quality paper with it.

I didn't realize that decent documentation wasn't the even the bare minimum until I bought a gun from Springfield. And, of course, I needed it right away and the quality of documentation was so 5h-itty it was useless.

As far as first impressions go, when Glock outshines Springfield Armory at the moment you open the box, it highlights SA's inferiority. That bad first impression takes a long time to recover from. There are too many other choices. Too bad, I like the actual guns. That's too bad.

Since then, I think I've bought at least four pistols from SA's competitors ( mini-revolver from North American, a .38 and a .22 from S&W, and a .44 from Ruger ). It just highlights SA's shortcomings. From the first moment you open the box.

They didn't save the dollars from all the money that I spent on their competitors, but they saved a few cents on the last gun I bought from them.

Bean counters do nothing for quality.
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Plus, I don’t like the so called pistol case that Springfields come with, keep it and give back the plastic hard case, even that Girsan came with a hard case, my Beretta APX came with a hard case for a $269.00 pistol….
 
Annihilator said:
Plus, I don’t like the so called pistol case that Springfields come with, keep it and give back the plastic hard case, even that Girsan came with a hard case, my Beretta APX came with a hard case for a $269.00 pistol….
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Canik still includes cleaning accessories and tools for optics and any other fasteners they use to assemble their pistols. I'm not a Canik fan....I have one and like it....just tossed it out there because Caniks are on the low-end of the price spectrum and still provide everything we're complaining about...
 
Annihilator said:
Same here, I keep everything, it’s just amazing that for the price we pay for the guns, they go cheap on the boxes, no manuals, I remember years ago S&W used to give you cleaning accessories, but they sure as hades make sure they give you that stupid lock which is totally useless….
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also too, i forgot to mention, when i am at the range (not so much the club) many people come in with the clamshell case and small carry case, that they have thier eye/ear protection, and boolits.

they simply do not have range bags, or the need for any..so the convenience of the clamshell hard case works for them. imagine the cardboard box after a few trips to the range...

sure the range in fact sells Plano gun cases, rather nice in fact for about $25.00

as a result, the range(s) reap some extra profits for selling the hard cases, where as the gun maker(s) buy in 1,000 times in bulk and pay far less then the ranges do, and provide the customer such a case for maybe far less than a retail gun store would.
 
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