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When You Shouldn’t Use a Weaponlight

Agreed.

Only time I could see having it always on is if the power is out or its pitch black in your home and you want to make sure you ID everything in front of you.

To me a WML is as much about blinding your possible intruder / attacker as it is ID'ing.

I agree also.

I have light-sticks at ready to toss ahead of me to high-lite areas ahead, and also use a nav light to keep a low-profile before the need to use a higher intensity light.
 
I'm untactical, so I'm not going to wade into the argument for or against WMLs... but I will say I've had my eye on the :cool: XD M Elite Tactical OSP for a while... I'm pretty sure I sincerely need that pistol...
Same here on WMLs and the OSP. I like that you mentioned coffee as part of your EDC.

That reminds me of the time when I was on duty in military dress uniform [unarmed] and was confronted by a car jacker who was drunk and looking for a fight. My first thought if attacked was to douse the individual with the contents of my piping-hot Duncan Donuts coffee before delivering a smackdown. I immediately got loud and he backed away. I really didn't want to get my uniform dirty anyway.
 
Clearly there's a legitimate use for them when utilized properly. There is always enough ambient light in my house that I will not need a light to see my way around. My primary HD weapon has a light with a pressure switch on it. I wouldn't have a WML without a pressure switch.
 
A home invasion defense event should be concluded within a couple of seconds when the intruder breaks into the saferoom - typically the master bedroom. This is when a gun light plus laser is critical.
Which brings me to the subject that makes most gun owners burst out laughing - shooting from the hip. With the laser, the classical stand is not needed or productive since holding the gun out makes is an easy target to grab. This is at least what happens in the movies.
A lasered gun held with both hands at the waist level is just as good as an AR. That picture shows the outcome from 21 feet. The group is high because I didn't zero the thing. IMG_20201030_152334703.jpg
 
Same here on WMLs and the OSP. I like that you mentioned coffee as part of your EDC.

That reminds me of the time when I was on duty in military dress uniform [unarmed] and was confronted by a car jacker who was drunk and looking for a fight. My first thought if attacked was to douse the individual with the contents of my piping-hot Duncan Donuts coffee before delivering a smackdown. I immediately got loud and he backed away. I really didn't want to get my uniform dirty anyway.
Yep, coffee is definitely on the EDC list (y) :coffee:
 
I'm untactical, so I'm not going to wade into the argument for or against WMLs... but I will say I've had my eye on the :cool: XD M Elite Tactical OSP for a while... I'm pretty sure I sincerely need that pistol...

I fanatically love my OSP.

Just ran it at a handgun challenge at the end of October - didn't do as well as I hoped but that was on me rushing and not the pistol :D

Probably have 3k rounds through it by now - it will likely never be replaced as my competition gun. The fact that I can throw a can on it is even better.
 
At night my home has a very faint blue light at one or more places in each room. I can see fine but others usually can't. I always carry a very small and fantastically bright light for blinding purposes to use if it makes sense. https://www.nebotools.com/p/MYCRO/595 I also own larger lights https://www.nebotools.com/p/REDLINE-6K/700 for use outdoors.

I do not attach lights to guns except for two lasers attached to two TAC 13s.
 
At night my home has a very faint blue light at one or more places in each room. I can see fine but others usually can't. I always carry a very small and fantastically bright light for blinding purposes to use if it makes sense. https://www.nebotools.com/p/MYCRO/595 I also own larger lights https://www.nebotools.com/p/REDLINE-6K/700 for use outdoors.

I do not attach lights to guns except for two lasers attached to two TAC 13s.

I also have lighting in my house that gives me a tactical advantage. My bedside .45 has a laser and the bedside shotgun has a WML with a pressure switch conveniently located. It’s specifically for blinding purposes as I can see if there’s a person standing there without aid of a light. And there is NO ONE who can be in my house in the middle of the night who would be innocent.

When I take possession of my TS12 it will, after some range time, most likely displace my current bedside shotgun. I haven’t decided if I’ll put a light on it or not.
 
I’m for it and they definitely have a place on certain, designated or dedicated firearms be it a pistol or rifle/shotgun. Most certainly to identify a target or subject. I have kids and a dog and I also have dim light throughout the house and a WML would benefit in stunning or blinding an intruder as the lumens from the WML are much brighter than the “softer” light in my house.

Being out and about and sometimes in certain areas with low or no light a WML is more effective for me vs a handheld light if the need arises I am having to use my firearm vs transitioning from a handheld light to my firearm. That call would be a subconscious call as to where your at and who your with.
 
My M&P 9 is the only one that has a light. It's a CT Laserguard Pro LL-801G green laser and light. It is programmable and activates via a momentary pressure switch on the grip where the middle finger of your strong hand rests. I've trained enough with it that I can operate it when necessary. It's only 100 lumens which is enough for the house but there is also a 500 lumens handheld on the nightstand which I pick up automatically no matter which weapon is next to it. My Rottweiler (85 lbs.) lets me know when anyone is in "his" yard.
 
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I guess I saw the early danger of WMLs (Light or laser) because it does mark your position. Additionally this means in a high pressure situation you are aiming your pistol in a search. I don't know how many here have been in a stressloaded search. Many many years ago I was in a medium sized city during a search for an "Armed Suspect" (p.s. he wasn't armed and he was actually a convenient target for the woman who was mad.

During the search my partner and I were upstairs doing our search. There was a rookie and the Sgt downstairs. The rookie with his flashlight (old days the mogamba flashlights and wheel guns). Junior turns a corner and sees a man with a flashlight and a gun at the end. He yells and then there are 3 shots in quick succession.

He blew the **** out of a mirror. Now this was a trained (albeit young) officer. The issue, he was searching with his finger on the trigger. It happens so easily. That was a 357 with a 11 lb trigger. I can only imagine if "Jim Bob is searching in the dark with his WML and suddenly the kid (who didn't follow the stay in your room directive) pops up.

Having a separate light does mean I am more or less using a single handed grip (Granted its going to be almost point blank range) I can use the light to quickly sweep around without the result of being surprised by a non target......
 
At night my home has a very faint blue light at one or more places in each room. I can see fine but others usually can't. I always carry a very small and fantastically bright light for blinding purposes to use if it makes sense. https://www.nebotools.com/p/MYCRO/595 I also own larger lights https://www.nebotools.com/p/REDLINE-6K/700 for use outdoors.

I do not attach lights to guns except for two lasers attached to two TAC 13s.
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I put a light on my firearms. I work 2nd shift and it does come in handy blinding some one at 12:30 in the morning. Yes I have adapted to kinda seeing at night but still a little help makes a big difference. It’s like not having headlights for night driving in my book
 
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