Annihilator
Hellion
In Ohio you do not have to inform them you are carrying….period! Some city cops think that you do, but most of these cops don’t know CCW laws…….
Why I Don't Volunteer That I'm Armed To The Police
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The Night Rider
Professional
I had to go through a border checkpoint outside of Sierra Vista. I am like Ghost White Pale.
The BP guy walked up to the car and I don't remember if you asked me if I was a citizen or not. I don't remember what he said but I was like "What am I supposed to do? Do I give you my driver's license or my military ID or what?" He just looked at me and laughed and said "GTF out of here"
The Night Rider
Professional
Even if they ask you?
The Night Rider
Professional
When I was working as a security guard I encountered cops while I was carrying a gun on a nightly basis.
Most of them didn't give a damn.
One time I was checking Parks and Rec and six cop cars surrounded me. They were answering a man with a gun call.
Apparently somebody saw a guy with a rifle across the street in a patch of woods between the road that Parks and Rec is on and the interstate.
The head cop was asking me If I'd seen anything, had I been there for any length of time, and similar questions. I was in uniform, he knew I worked for G4S. He told me to exercise caution while I was finishing my checks but probably would be best for me to get out of the area ASAP.
Then asked me if I was armed. They were standing in a circle around me probably less than 2 feet away and I watched the guy on my right look at my hip and that was the first time that it occurred to any of them that I might have a gun on me.
Parks And Rec was one of my favorite buildings to check.
The cops went to go check out the woods and I continued my rounds and at some point I saw them pull an AR out of the trunk of a car and I heard him chamber a round. That's why I thought this might be getting serious.
Most of them didn't give a damn.
One time I was checking Parks and Rec and six cop cars surrounded me. They were answering a man with a gun call.
Apparently somebody saw a guy with a rifle across the street in a patch of woods between the road that Parks and Rec is on and the interstate.
The head cop was asking me If I'd seen anything, had I been there for any length of time, and similar questions. I was in uniform, he knew I worked for G4S. He told me to exercise caution while I was finishing my checks but probably would be best for me to get out of the area ASAP.
Then asked me if I was armed. They were standing in a circle around me probably less than 2 feet away and I watched the guy on my right look at my hip and that was the first time that it occurred to any of them that I might have a gun on me.
Parks And Rec was one of my favorite buildings to check.
The cops went to go check out the woods and I continued my rounds and at some point I saw them pull an AR out of the trunk of a car and I heard him chamber a round. That's why I thought this might be getting serious.
Annihilator
Hellion
You really don’t have to tell them unless like you said if they ask….excerpt from the Ohio AG CCW book…..
“Traffic Stops and Other Law Enforcement Encounters
If you are stopped for a law enforcement purpose and carrying a concealed
handgun, you are no longer required to inform the officer that you are
carrying. However, if the officer asks whether you are carrying, you must
answer truthfully. Even if the officer doesn’t ask if you are carrying a firearm,
being forthright about it enhances safety for you and the officer.
If in a vehicle you shall remain in the vehicle with hands in plain sight at
all times.”
Lab4Us
Custom
This seems to be what gets a lot of “innocent” folks in trouble, as least with the highly publicized incidents involving LE and legal concealed carriers. The inability of those concealsed carrying to keep their hands where the LEO(s) can see them.
I think a few of those were in states where licenses are still required (no Constitutional Carry) and, to be honest, as the number of states WITH Constitutional Carry has increased, I’m surprised these type of unnecessary incidents have not…but that’s obviously a good thing!
bc22wm
Professional
When stopped at night, I turn on the interior light, turn of the radio, roll down the window and sit with both hands at 12 on the steering wheel. The police have a 
y enough job as it is without me making it worse.BTW, In Me. you are only required to tell if you are Constitutional carry.
The Night Rider
Professional
Before I say anything else, Again, I haven't been pulled over in 12 years and that particular time was in broad daylight but when if I get pulled over at night I automatically turned on my dome light and made sure I had my license registration and proof of insurance in my hand before the cop got to my car.
This never happened to me but I've heard the new thing now is for them to walk up and if your windows down "they detect the odor of marijuana".
I don't remember ever running into a cop at work by surprise. But when I did run into a cop that I hadn't called but it's first thing I said was "I'm a security guard. I'm supposed to be here."
I ran into one sheriff's deputy at work one day who was parked right in front of my key card reader at the front gate playing speed trap.
I asked her if she could just slide over to the other side of the driveway so that people could come and go through the gate.
She made a big deal out of the fact that I asked her. Like she was shocked that I made it a request instead of a demand.
Those are the only cops that I remember run having a run-in with outside of the guys at Parks and Rec.
Most of the cops that I encountered at work were a whole lot like me putting in the hours, trying to turn a buck and make the mortgage
Anchorite
Master Class
Interesting topic.
I wonder if in todays world, all law enforcement training programs and academy’s train their graduates to expect and therefore treat every traffic stop as if the driver and occupants are armed.
Anyone know or venture to guess if this is the (training) case today?
The law on the books notwithstanding, would you act differently if you knew that law enforcement already considered you armed at the time you were stopped and the encounter was unfolding? And let’s not forget that officers are more likely equipped with body cams and dash cams.
Would you still just follow whatever the law says, or would you behave and respond differently?
Let’s hear everyone’s thoughts.
I wonder if in todays world, all law enforcement training programs and academy’s train their graduates to expect and therefore treat every traffic stop as if the driver and occupants are armed.
Anyone know or venture to guess if this is the (training) case today?
The law on the books notwithstanding, would you act differently if you knew that law enforcement already considered you armed at the time you were stopped and the encounter was unfolding? And let’s not forget that officers are more likely equipped with body cams and dash cams.
Would you still just follow whatever the law says, or would you behave and respond differently?
Let’s hear everyone’s thoughts.
Lab4Us
Custom
I would respond as I’ve responded throughout my life, with respect and doing nothing to encourage the officer to escalate their behavior. My window always goes down, and if night, like someone else mentioned, my dome light goes on. I haven’t been stopped in a long while, but now with pretty (but legal) dark tinted windows, I would probably roll all four down. My hands go on the wheel until the LEO approaches and provides guidance.
Only one time has this failed me, about 20 years ago, when I got a ticket for 60 in a 55 at 0800 on a Sunday morning on the interstate returning to Texas from SC (wife’s parents). Of course that was in Georgia so the math was easy - out of state plates = $$ and going to court highly unlikely
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Only one time has this failed me, about 20 years ago, when I got a ticket for 60 in a 55 at 0800 on a Sunday morning on the interstate returning to Texas from SC (wife’s parents). Of course that was in Georgia so the math was easy - out of state plates = $$ and going to court highly unlikely
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Jsimon78
Professional
Illinois has my stuff attached to my DL/Plates. There was one 
time a county didn’t ask and I didn’t inform him. Illinois I don’t have to inform at all unless asked. So yeah it was different and I thought I freaked out a lot but I was more grounded than my size 12 shoes. Since he drove me home he was looking and drooling 
over my M&P 10MM (which makes me wonder). I wanted to bitch at him since he skipped over a lot of things (yes I did show him my CCL card saying I wasn’t going to shoot him).
Much like the rest of the country the big cities are blue as the rural is red. We all can complain about Illinois but Chicago gives the rest of the state a bad taste.
time a county didn’t ask and I didn’t inform him. Illinois I don’t have to inform at all unless asked. So yeah it was different and I thought I freaked out a lot but I was more grounded than my size 12 shoes. Since he drove me home he was looking and drooling over my M&P 10MM (which makes me wonder). I wanted to bitch at him since he skipped over a lot of things (yes I did show him my CCL card saying I wasn’t going to shoot him). Much like the rest of the country the big cities are blue as the rural is red. We all can complain about Illinois but Chicago gives the rest of the state a bad taste.
bc22wm
Professional
Anchorite, for clarity corrections in ME by state law are not law enforcement. Can't speak for training or if they consider everyone armed (we are a CC state), But after dealing with one agency or another almost every day, you and I are a "them" as opposed to "us". Even worse is that many have forgotten they are servants of the people, protect and serve as opposed to EFORCERS of the LAW. That don't necessarily make anyone good or bad, but it does change the perception right off the bat. Then with the growing anti-police attitudes, even from politicians, who could blame them.
JMHO anyone going into law enforcement today needs the blessings of God and then have their heads examined.
JMHO anyone going into law enforcement today needs the blessings of God and then have their heads examined.
Lab4Us
Custom
Wait! You’re not going to take credit for East St. Louis? (Having grown up in Florissant/St. Louis Co) - though I haven’t been back since about 1978.Illinois has my stuff attached to my DL/Plates. There was one
Much like the rest of the country the big cities are blue as the rural is red. We all can complain about Illinois but Chicago gives the rest of the state a bad taste.
Tinyman
Hellcat
Two LE cars parked with the drivers doors facing each other talking, I stopped and asked the question, "if stopped, do you prefer me to tell you I am carrying or keep my mouth shut"? The white cop said, "it would be nice to know". The black cop said "no, just dont show me yours and I won't show you mine".
Alabama
Alabama
I love my state! (At least not the city areas)
Yup! I am in the Huntsville area.
Mr. Untactical
Master Class
The last time I was in Denver - I flew in for a conference (at Mile High Stadium no less, but I digress). So, no firearms, no driving, just dodging the homeless downtown.
However, if I was driving, the K9 would likely be more interested in the 4.5 year-old female GSD in the car than scoping out the fact that I don't have drugs on board.