deadduck357
Custom
Try putting a 9mm Hellcat magazine into a 380 Hellcat.
Review: Springfield Hellcat .380 ACP
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Lab4Us
Custom
Not sure I’d call a $55 clip to attach a magazine to your pocket “advanced marketing”? I find it easier (and much cheaper) to just not carry anything, except said magazine, in one of my left pockets…
Jsimon78
Custom
I’m doing a hard pass on the HC in .380. It’s just too small for my fat hands. Now if I wasn’t the chunky 6’ guy that throws 55 pounds of animal feed around for a living then I might be interested (even my HCP seems to not get enough attention either). Yes it has its place for people out there that can’t handle recoil like I can or hide a compact 9/.40/10. I will say choices matter for people.
Steve Boat
Alpha
They did not down size the Hellcat (I wish they would as its a great gun) This is just a less recoil option it is the same size! Can we get one 4.5 or less? The Spectrum was a great pocket gun but they did not work well. Build one that size the have it work and I am IN!
Biggfoot44
Master Class
Hat's off , maybe .
I rarely carried more than three .
Primary & J Frame on ankle were fixtures . The ( numerical ) third variously were either another J Frame , or a full size or full size -ish .
* To Me * , l figured if l was in deep enough to go thru those two or three , what l needed then was Bigger , not smaller still . Like a shotgun .
Mr. Untactical
Master Class
All marketing is the pursuit of creating a need in as many consumers as possible, convincing them they need whatever it is the company is selling. I get the idea behind a mag pouch (which sounds vaguely marsupial) and even have a NeoMag clip (which was less than $55), but haven't used it much because the clip is very stiff and it's hard to get into place. Like you, if I choose to carry an extra mag, it goes into the off-hand pocket. If I'm in a gunfight where 15+1 isn't enough, I have bigger problems that not having a mag pouch.
ChanceMcCall
Custom
Mas Ayoob has told me he has carried as many as 13 firearms on the job.
That beats anyone else I've known of. Two of my guns were very small. A Seecamp .25ACP, and a Freedom Arms .22LR ( now a North American Arms .22LR) which were intended not to be found when patted down. 
I am 100% in agreement with a 12 gauge when circumstances allow.
Talyn
Emissary
There are no standards for "naming" the sizes of semi-auto standards in the industry.
One company cane call their product a "micro" willy nilly as a marketing ploy. Then as another marketing ploy they start making it bigger with add-ons and/or slight frame size changes, and still call it a micro.
A double-stack mag handgun that's just a bit smaller than a G19 is really a sub-compact.
My .02
One company cane call their product a "micro" willy nilly as a marketing ploy. Then as another marketing ploy they start making it bigger with add-ons and/or slight frame size changes, and still call it a micro.
A double-stack mag handgun that's just a bit smaller than a G19 is really a sub-compact.
My .02
deadduck357
Custom
Sub-compacts traditionally are shortened compacts. Like G19 - G26.There are no standards for "naming" the sizes of semi-auto standards in the industry.
One company cane call their product a "micro" willy nilly as a marketing ploy. Then as another marketing ploy they start making it bigger with add-ons and/or slight frame size changes, and still call it a micro.
A double-stack mag handgun that's just a bit smaller than a G19 is really a sub-compact.
My .02
You can’t they are different, the 380 mag is too short front to back to fill the 9 frame. The 9 mag is to long to fit in the grip of the 380 frame.
deadduck357
Custom
That was my point. Is the 380 grip the same externally as the 9mm or shorter front to back? If they are the same externally what did they do internally?
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hotolds442
Alpha
The .380 grip is shorter front to back.
deadduck357
Custom
I see, on the left is a 380 mag in a 9mm pistol
Talyn
Emissary
Case in point...
This manufacturer calls their pistol which has, in general, the same dimensional and capacity features of the original "Hellcat", a Subcompact, whereas SA calls the Hellcat a micro.
athlonoutdoors.com
The bottom-line it's all about marketing.
This manufacturer calls their pistol which has, in general, the same dimensional and capacity features of the original "Hellcat", a Subcompact, whereas SA calls the Hellcat a micro.
All New RM1S Subcompact by Rost Martin
Athlon Outdoors Exclusive Firearm Updates, Reviews & News
athlonoutdoors.com
The bottom-line it's all about marketing.
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Lab4Us
Custom
Just looking at that, the Rost Martin looked bigger (longer) than the Hellcat. I thought it looked as long as my Hellcat with the compensator attached. So I looked them up on Handgun Hero and it appears the Rost Martin is almost 3/4 inch longer. Hellcat IS smaller than this Rost Martin.Case in point...
This manufacturer calls their pistol which has, in general, the same dimensional and capacity features of the original "Hellcat", a Subcompact, whereas SA calls the Hellcat a micro.
All New RM1S Subcompact by Rost Martin
Athlon Outdoors Exclusive Firearm Updates, Reviews & News
View attachment 96300
The bottom-line it's all about marketing.
Winchester67
Custom
I have to admit, I would go with a 9 mm just because ammo is SO much cheaper. At the end of the day, I am a cheapskate.
Talyn
Emissary
That's why I said..."in general".
deadduck357
Custom
The RM1S is the 'sub-compact' version of the RM1C (compact. It is slim for a sub-compact. I believe that "Micro Compacts" are for pistols 1" width or less. Just my observation.Case in point...
This manufacturer calls their pistol which has, in general, the same dimensional and capacity features of the original "Hellcat", a Subcompact, whereas SA calls the Hellcat a micro.
All New RM1S Subcompact by Rost Martin
Athlon Outdoors Exclusive Firearm Updates, Reviews & News
View attachment 96300
The bottom-line it's all about marketing.