OMG I Started A Fight

[Biggfoot44]

Damn, that really frosts my pumpkin; all those ant-gun state fees, classes, declared "assault" and weapon bans. They make more money with all of this than if they were pro-gun. Their focus is on income, not weapons.
Ooops... sorry, not on topic. Grrrrrrrr.

It's not the State making most of the money .

On my turf , an initial Permit is typically $500 ‐ ish all in , the State gets $125 directly , and $10 indirectly . The rest is spent on the private sector , to fulfill the mandated requirements .

The big expense is the 16 hr class . Both in the $ directly , and 2 days out of your life that otherwise could have been working , or family responsibilities , or doing volunteer , community , church , or whatever important you would otherwise be doing .

Mainstream "training " costs are $275 ‐ $400 . ( Done on a rational business . Occasionally done by 2A True Believers , essentisally Pro Bono . Still takes about $175 charge to break even .

The State Legislsture prioritizes making it difficult and expensive for Applicants , not maximizing revenues .

 

[Jsimon78]

It's not the State making most of the money .

On my turf , an initial Permit is typically $500 ‐ ish all in , the State gets $125 directly , and $10 indirectly . The rest is spent on the private sector , to fulfill the mandated requirements .

The big expense is the 16 hr class . Both in the $ directly , and 2 days out of your life that otherwise could have been working , or family responsibilities , or doing volunteer , community , church , or whatever important you would otherwise be doing .

Mainstream "training " costs are $275 ‐ $400 . ( Done on a rational business . Occasionally done by 2A True Believers , essentisally Pro Bono . Still takes about $175 charge to break even .

The State Legislsture prioritizes making it difficult and expensive for Applicants , not maximizing revenues .

I imagine you’re talking about the lovely state of Illinois that is ruled by a king of the buffet line.

The 16 hour class I did had about 4 or 5 of us. The instructor said it was the smallest class he had in a while. Truthfully it was fun but also at the same time I’m happy it’s behind me. I will have to look at taking time off of work for the renewal process of 3 hours.

 

[USMC6095]

I imagine you’re talking about the lovely state of Illinois that is ruled by a king of the buffet line.

The 16 hour class I did had about 4 or 5 of us. The instructor said it was the smallest class he had in a while. Truthfully it was fun but also at the same time I’m happy it’s behind me. I will have to look at taking time off of work for the renewal process of 3 hours.

So you periodically must return for a refresher?

 

[Jsimon78]

So you periodically must return for a refresher?

Yes. It’s only a 3 hour class. It’s qualifying and covering laws. Then summit my 150 bucks

 

[papa]

So you periodically must return for a refresher?

Yes we do have to reup every 5 years. If we move we have to put in a change of address . That costs $80.00 , $75 for the carry license and $5 for the FOID card.

The 5 year renewal will cost at least $50.00 for the training and another $150.00 for the carry license. Plus a small fee for letting us submit the application online. Oh , did I tell you there is no other way TO submit the app.

 

[Jsimon78]

Yes we do have to reup every 5 years. If we move we have to put in a change of address . That costs $80.00 , $75 for the carry license and $5 for the FOID card.

The 5 year renewal will cost at least $50.00 for the training and another $150.00 for the carry license. Plus a small fee for letting us submit the application online. Oh , did I tell you there is no other way TO submit the app.

I got a hack for you if you ever forget your piece of plastic (yes I went through it).

 

[USMC6095]

I just went to Range Usaa at lunch to run a quick box through an Echelon to see if I want to buy one. While signing the waiver I noticed that in order to shoot you had to produce your FOID card if in IL. WTH?

 

[Jsimon78]

I just went to Range Usaa at lunch to run a quick box through an Echelon to see if I want to buy one. While signing the waiver I noticed that in order to shoot you had to produce your FOID card if in IL. WTH?

Welcome to old man Daley racial card. I’d get into it but I hate Chicago politics.

 

[papa]

I just went to Range Usaa at lunch to run a quick box through an Echelon to see if I want to buy one. While signing the waiver I noticed that in order to shoot you had to produce your FOID card if in IL. WTH?

Yep. Here in IL. you have to have a FOID card just to look at/handle a firearm..

 

[USMC6094]

I was strictly an airframer but was part of the engine change team if we lost an engine away from base. Home base was MCAS Cherry Point and I was with VMA-542. When we did lose an engine I helped both hydraulics shop and powerline do their part as well. It was normally just an 8 to 10 man team that they sent out. Still know nothing about hydraulics just did what they told me to do.
I looked up 314. Not sure when you were in so were they at Miramar or El Toro? I spent my first couple months out of boot camp at El Toro working for H&MS-11 (I think that is right) at El Toro in the Corrosion Control department waiting for my school to open up in Millington.

I was at Miramar from 98 to early 01. I was in MALS-11s hydraulic shop, got augmented to 314 for my first deployment.
I grew up in Havelock, only came to Cherry Point once, in either of my enlistments, and that was for NALCOMIS school when I was stationed at Beaufort.
I didn't get to Harrier work until I came to be a Depot level gearbox builder. Spent 10 of the last twelve years overhauling the Pegasus accessory gearbox.
Now I build subcomponents for the 53s T64 engine.

 

[USMC6095]

I was at Miramar from 98 to early 01. I was in MALS-11s hydraulic shop, got augmented to 314 for my first deployment.
I grew up in Havelock, only came to Cherry Point once, in either of my enlistments, and that was for NALCOMIS school when I was stationed at Beaufort.
I didn't get to Harrier work until I came to be a Depot level gearbox builder. Spent 10 of the last twelve years overhauling the Pegasus accessory gearbox.
Now I build subcomponents for the 53s T64 engine.

Cool story. I was in during the transition from the AV8A to the AV8B. Did you do depot work at Cherry Point? I understand it is called Naval Aviation Depot now but we always knew it as NARF, Naval Aviation Rework Facility.