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ATF Press Release

so......not sure what it all means yet but this jumps out "Under ATF’s guidance, ATF will not enforce the requirements for individuals to apply and receive ATF approval before making or transferring short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, suppressors (silencers), and certain other concealable firearms known in the law as “any other weapons.” ATF also will not enforce the NFA’s registration, tax-stamp or related requirements for those covered items. " Will not enforce does not mean those regulations have gone away... some double speak going on here. What if the fed gov switches back to less 2A friendly - we're all back where we started. Still have to fill out the forms and run through NICS - not seeing this as a champagne toast moment.
 
Belt Fed said:
Gun shop owner called me at read it to me
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Remember…stay in skool kids.

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What hasn’t changed​

  • State law still applies. If suppressors are restricted in your state, this guidance does not change that. Some states only allow suppressors that are registered under federal law, and dealers may not make a transfer that violates state or local law. For that reason, ATF will continue to accept and approve Form 4s from anyone who chooses to register.
  • ATF also cautions that this policy could change. Unregistered suppressors would not automatically be grandfathered if enforcement resumed.
 
Talyn said:

What hasn’t changed​

  • State law still applies. If suppressors are restricted in your state, this guidance does not change that. Some states only allow suppressors that are registered under federal law, and dealers may not make a transfer that violates state or local law. For that reason, ATF will continue to accept and approve Form 4s from anyone who chooses to register.
  • ATF also cautions that this policy could change. Unregistered suppressors would not automatically be grandfathered if enforcement resumed.
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But you have to remember, if enforcement resumed, it would automatically go back to the court case in Texas, and the judge that ruled that the ATF was not allowed to do that. Unless Congress put it into law that suppressors were now taxed again, and then it would go back to NFA status in theory, but again the cats out of the bag, there’s damn near no way to put it back.

And this goes as a message to all the people that are mad at Trump and not gonna vote Republican, just to spite him, if we do lose the house or the Senate, nothing else is gonna get done for the next two years. And if we get a Democrat president, they damn sure are going to try to put this cat back in that bag. Trump may not be perfect, but we have two more years to to appoint as many judges as possible that will rule based on the Constitution and not their own feelings. basically, you may not like Trump, but the alternative for a 2A voter is not good
 
Talyn said:

What hasn’t changed​

  • State law still applies. If suppressors are restricted in your state, this guidance does not change that. Some states only allow suppressors that are registered under federal law, and dealers may not make a transfer that violates state or local law. For that reason, ATF will continue to accept and approve Form 4s from anyone who chooses to register.
  • ATF also cautions that this policy could change. Unregistered suppressors would not automatically be grandfathered if enforcement resumed.
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  • ATF also cautions that this policy could change. Unregistered suppressors would not automatically be grandfathered if enforcement resumed.
Never thought if this…..🤔🤔
 
Here's my deal, if the law is made i will pretty much comply if it's reasonable, but if they change it and say we can do this and i spend a lot of money on stacks and they up and change their minds, then they can kiss my rosie red butt. i'm NOT putting it back. and i was really nice wording that. that's a crock of crap to tell people yeah go ahead a modify your guns we don''t care but we might change our minds later, that"s BS.
 
Belt Fed said:
Here's my deal, if the law is made i will pretty much comply if it's reasonable, but if they change it and say we can do this and i spend a lot of money on stacks and they up and change their minds, then they can kiss my rosie red butt. i'm NOT putting it back. and i was really nice wording that. that's a crock of crap to tell people yeah go ahead a modify your guns we don''t care but we might change our minds later, that"s BS.
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Dollars to donuts, Congress will enact a law very similar to the GCA of 68 sometime soon. My guess is as soon as Trump is out of office...
 
Belt Fed said:
Here's my deal, if the law is made i will pretty much comply if it's reasonable, but if they change it and say we can do this and i spend a lot of money on stacks and they up and change their minds, then they can kiss my rosie red butt. i'm NOT putting it back. and i was really nice wording that. that's a crock of crap to tell people yeah go ahead a modify your guns we don''t care but we might change our minds later, that"s BS.
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Exactly. What I have, I have. And keep. Fat chance I give up anything. What are they going to do, go house to house and "take" it all back?
 
Retired Bum said:
Dollars to donuts, Congress will enact a law very similar to the GCA of 68 sometime soon. My guess is as soon as Trump is out of office...
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Congress doesnt have the gumption to even censure their own out of line..
they dont have to resolve to pass thru both parties . Fat chance. Congress is as bad as showing up on Sunday with the family for a Chick Fil A dinner
 
Since this topic is being discussed in a couple threads I'll post this info from Brownells, since previous links don't seem to cover the whole story.

ATF Issues New NFA Guidance

ATF has released new guidance that changes the federal process for certain NFA-regulated items, effective October 9, 2026.

What This Means for our Customers

Under the new ATF guidance, federal NFA approval and registration are no longer required before making or transferring certain NFA items, including suppressors, short-barreled rifles (SBRs), short-barreled shotguns (SBSs), and certain other regulated items.

For eligible purchases through an FFL, standard federal firearm transaction requirements still apply, including completing a Form 4473 and, unless exempt, passing a NICS background check.

State and Local Laws Still Apply.

These changes do not apply the same way in every state. State and local laws may restrict or prohibit certain items or require additional registration, documentation, or transfer procedures.

Before making a purchase, customers should review their current state and local laws and regulations to understand what is legal and what requirements apply where they live.

Important Things to Know

State and local laws are not superseded by this ATF guidance.

Availability and transfer requirements vary by location.

Federal, state, and local eligibility requirements still apply.

Some transactions may require additional documentation.

Customers may still voluntarily use applicable NFA forms and registration processes.


Open States (27) — No NFA process (No form required). Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wyoming. Buy a suppressor like any other firearm.

NFA States (15) — (Form 4 Still Applies) The NFA process still applies. Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Georgia, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Washington, and Wisconsin. State law still requires the Form 4 process here.

Banned (8 states + D.C.). California, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, and Rhode Island, plus Washington, D.C. Suppressors are not currently legal in these places.
 
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