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What's with the European spec .32 ACP FMJ shortage?

Dobbinsky

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"SOLD OUT"
I hate those words! It was a chore finding the hotter Euro ammo in FMJ for the Zastava M70 pistol I recently ordered. Finding them available in large bulk quantities isn't a problem and in JHP, but a few boxes of 50 FMJ? Exhausting search. So I settled for 500 rounds (ten boxes of 50) of Privi Partizan, 71 Grain FMJ for $209.00 with no shipping costs. Didn't want that much, but what the heck. More time at the range.

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This is fine for some great target practice. You need to invest in a single-stage reloading press. Carefully work up some 71-grain FMJ loads to their maximum safe pressures without sacrificing accuracy.

If you are involved in a shooting, the subject of "making super-hot ammunition" will not likely surface in conjunction with the 7.65 mm Browning cartridge.
 
The d@mned US lawyers forced a "watered down" version of the the 7.65 Browning. This is why the Fiocchi 73-grain, FMJ "blue box" (of Nevada manufacture, BTW) has risen to the top of the .32 ACP heap.

The Buffalo Bore 75-grain LFP load is an excellent bet when it comes to commercial personal defense loads. It is costly, but how much is your life worth?
 
The d@mned US lawyers forced a "watered down" version of the the 7.65 Browning. This is why the Fiocchi 73-grain, FMJ "blue box" (of Nevada manufacture, BTW) has risen to the top of the .32 ACP heap.

The Buffalo Bore 75-grain LFP load is an excellent bet when it comes to commercial personal defense loads. It is costly, but how much is your life worth?
I think I'll be happy with the Privi Partizan, as it is loaded to Euro specs, over 2,200 PSI more than American. We'll see. Range report to follow when it all comes together. The Zastava shipped today. :)
 
Everyone sells the 7.65mm Browning short. When loaded to 21,500 psi, FMJ bullets can, and will, handily pass through the human sternum. The longer the barrel, the deeper the penetration. (We all know how this works.)

Dobbinski: I think you'll be happy with the Zastava. If you find signs of surface wear, degrease it. Then use cold bluing to "touch-up" the worn spots. Re-apply the proper grease and gun oil(s) to the appropriate surfaces and enjoy the pistol. You will find it fun (read, entertaining) and the piece can be a life saver. At 21 feet, it can stop an aggressor in very short order.
 
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Everyone sells the 7.65mm Browning short. When loaded to 21,500 psi, FMJ bullets can, and will, handily pass through the human sternum. The longer the barrel, the deeper the penetration. (We all know how this works.)

Dobbinski: I think you'll be happy with the Zastava. If you find signs of surface wear, degrease it. Then use cold bluing to "touch-up" the worn spots. Re-apply the proper grease and gun oil(s) to the appropriate surfaces and enjoy the pistol. You will find it fun (read, entertaining) and the piece can be a life saver. At 21 feet, it can stop an aggressor in very short order.
Thanks, El Captian!
 
I got tired of supply chain issues about 15 years ago and started swaging my own bullets, so once I have sufficient quantities of powder, primers, and brass, I can make what I want when I want. I have recently acquired some dies for one of my favorites, the 32acp. As others have said, you can always handload to better ballistics, but especially with less popular calibers like the 32acp, factory offerings can be scant, especially in variety of point types and bullet weights.

The dies I bought were for RN and FN bullet types. Of course, when you swage you own, you can made any weight you want and several different bullet types with the same dies.


Traditional RN bullets (lead cores seated in jackets on the left, then next to it the finished bullet made with that core)
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Round Nose Soft Point
RCE RN 32acp 002.jpg




Round Nose Open Tip
RCE RN 32acp 003.jpg



Round Nose HP
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Flat Nose Open Tip
RCE FN 32acp 001.jpg




Flat Nose HP
RCE FN 32acp 003.jpg



Flat Nose Soft Point
RCE FN 32acp 001.jpg


Variations Possible:
1. Almost infinite weight variation accurate to < 1 grain.
2. Soft Points, you can vary the amount of lead above the jacket to vary feeding charateristics and terminal ballistics.
Very little xposed lead will function like a FMJ, a full ogive soft point will expand more than FMJ, and penetrate better than JHP.
3. Open Tips, you can vary the space below the leading edge of the jacket. If you make lead to the tip, it will penetrate like a FMJ, but has a sharp edge that "bites" into bone, rather than ricocheting off or skirting around bones (like skulls, sternums, etc) hit at oblique angles. You can leave a large space between the leading edge of the jacket the lead core in the bottom of jacket. Especially in relatively short pistol jackets, You can make super light bullets that still seat in the case and feed in the gun, but have high velocity for calibers, more explosive expansion and jacket separation on soft targets like snakes and varmints, and less over penetration on barriers, like sheetrock, and less ricochet risk on rocks or pavement.
4. Hollowpoints are the mid range, more expansion than soft points, more penetration than light open tips of similar weight. Lead above the jacket is also variable, so you can have a fully exposed lead ogive HP, or a jacket covered HP or anywhere in between
5. Although not pictured, you can make FMJ's by simply putting the point on the closed end of the jacketed lead core rather than the open end.
6. You can also put a SWC style point on a jacketed bullet that will punch a caliber sized entry hole in soft targets for quicker exsanguination.
7. You can also fill part or all of the jacket with #12 lead shot to make a fully frangible, or partially frangible bullet. You can also fill jackets with tungsten powder to make a normal length bullet that is super heavy. Although probably not useful for the 32acp, it can be useful for "hinge busting", no ricochet, rounds for entry work in larger calibers.
8. You can add one or multiple cannelures, bullet knurling, polymer tips, creased jackets (like XTP bullets) and in a world where cartridge jackets become unobtanium, you can swage down and trim fired cartridge brass to use as bullet jackets.

While the variety of bullets you can make are not infinite, they are voluminous.

I really like being less tied to supply chains in the increasngly uncertain times, but the real benefit to swaging is the ability to make ammo custom fit for you gun and end application that is simply not available anywhere at any price. You came make more consistent and more accurate bullets at home than a factory can, and many bullets by many custom ammo makers are made with the same presses and dies you can use at home. Many BR records have been, and still are, set with homemade bullets.
 

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If you can make them feed in your gun, a full power 71gr FN FMJ at around 1000fps would certainly be very effective in 32acp. Since I can make them, my preference would be a SWC open tip, jacketed and leaded all the way to the edge of the meplat, at the same speed, as long as I could make them feed reliably in my chosen platform. They would cut a clean 32 cal entrance, expand a little, cut with a sharp edge to penetrate bone better on oblique angles, and still penetrate nearly as deep in gelatine. Like the OP, I have always favored the power of the European ammo in both the 32acp and 25acp and often carried Fiocchi or S&B in mne. (I know, I know, I have heard all the arguments for and against mouseguns in these calbers for over 45 years, but I still own and carry guns in both calibers in certain circumstances.) My EDC is a Kimber SOLO in 9mm, or even on rare occasions an AMT Backup in 40S&W, or even a custom made 455 Webley with a 2.5" barrel with "Manstoppers", if circumstances warrant.

An old 455 Webley "Manstopper" (The ones I make are jacketed of course.)
Manstopper 002.jpg


All that said, God help anyone who considers me "unarmed" when I am carrying my NAA Guardian in 32acp. I have a new (to me) toy in 25NAA. If I ever locate set of 25 cal bullet swages, look out.

They say Gen. George Patton carried his ivory handled 357's for the cameras, but when the press wasn't around his EDC in the field was a 1903 in 32acp.
 
If you can make them feed in your gun, a full power 71gr FN FMJ at around 1000fps would certainly be very effective in 32acp. Since I can make them, my preference would be a SWC open tip, jacketed and leaded all the way to the edge of the meplat, at the same speed, as long as I could make them feed reliably in my chosen platform. They would cut a clean 32 cal entrance, expand a little, cut with a sharp edge to penetrate bone better on oblique angles, and still penetrate nearly as deep in gelatine. Like the OP, I have always favored the power of the European ammo in both the 32acp and 25acp and often carried Fiocchi or S&B in mne. (I know, I know, I have heard all the arguments for and against mouseguns in these calbers for over 45 years, but I still own and carry guns in both calibers in certain circumstances.) My EDC is a Kimber SOLO in 9mm, or even on rare occasions an AMT Backup in 40S&W, or even a custom made 455 Webley with a 2.5" barrel with "Manstoppers", if circumstances warrant.

An old 455 Webley "Manstopper" (The ones I make are jacketed of course.)
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All that said, God help anyone who considers me "unarmed" when I am carrying my NAA Guardian in 32acp. I have a new (to me) toy in 25NAA. If I ever locate set of 25 cal bullet swages, look out.

They say Gen. George Patton carried his ivory handled 357's for the cameras, but when the press wasn't around his EDC in the field was a 1903 in 32acp.
Yes. Yes, he did.

A "properly loaded" .32 ACP works for me!
 
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