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Don’t Do These Things with Your 1911!

BET7 said:
There’s only one Uncle Joe, thank goodness
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I love Tucker Holsters! Rob is a great guy and stands behind every piece they make. I just took delivery of two more this week for my Wilson Combat EDC X9 and this Robars Custom Satin Nickel 3” EMP .40. Sadly Robars recently closed up shop after 30+ years of amazing work. I customize a number of my 1911’s as I get past the 5-7000 round mark and know it doesn’t need any warranty work. Then I contact Rob and design a holster to match the gun. Just a break in tip for new holsters I’ve used for years, which Rob even appreciated. I clean and oil the exterior of the pistol, then wrap it in wax paper before working it in and out of the holster, after it’s sat in this condition to allow the holster to mold perfectly to your gun for a few days. The oil protects the finish without risking any oil damage to the holster etc.
 

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Unsprung1 said:
I love Tucker Holsters! Rob is a great guy and stands behind every piece they make. I just took delivery of two more this week for my Wilson Combat EDC X9 and this Robars Custom Satin Nickel 3” EMP .40. Sadly Robars recently closed up shop after 30+ years of amazing work. I customize a number of my 1911’s as I get past the 5-7000 round mark and know it doesn’t need any warranty work. Then I contact Rob and design a holster to match the gun. Just a break in tip for new holsters I’ve used for years, which Rob even appreciated. I clean and oil the exterior of the pistol, then wrap it in wax paper before working it in and out of the holster, after it’s sat in this condition to allow the holster to mold perfectly to your gun for a few days. The oil protects the finish without risking any oil damage to the holster etc.
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Nice holster even with the 1911 in it!
 
Good article thank you!
Colonel Cooper may have come up with the term Condition One but John Moses Browning described it in his final patent for the 1911 (August 1913) when he gives the reason for adding the thumb safety.
 
EL LOBO said:
When I was in the Army a guy pulled a 5" lock blade LB5 Schrade Bear Claw Knife on me rather than shoot him I slapped him with my GI Issue 1911 .45 in the side of the head so hard the slide release came out of the pistol and the 1911 fell apart in my hand thank God the smack knocked the guy cold and I didn't have to kill the guy. I was his escort for his court-martial and was escorting him back for his sentence for AWOL & Desertion the MP's turned him over to me I assumed they had searched him! He had to get 10 stitches for his injuries. And my Commander wanted me to press charges on him and I said we would have to keep him around another few weeks it wouldn't be worth it, he was sentenced to 3 years at the USDB at Ft Leavenworth. Never use the 1911 .45 as a club was my lesson learned! I bet that guy never forgotten me.
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I hate to be one but as far as a slide stop falling out of a 1911 from hitting someone in the head……………..? Unless the tang on the slide stop had been previously broken off there’s no way it can be removed without lining up the notch in the slide with the tang on the slide stop thus allowing its removal. I suppose you could hit the right side of the slide stop pin with a hammer hard enough to break it but even then the pressure from the recoil spring on the link against the slide stop pin would make it almost impossible to just fall out.

As far as the article goes, slamming the slide onto a cartridge dropped into the chamber was an accepted practice early on when the 1911 was adopted. Too, look at the extractor itself, it’s massive compared to the usual pivoted hook type currently in use on most pistols (also used on Browning’s earlier designed pistols). The heavy extractor was designed to take abuse and to also accommodate mis-spec’d ammunition (not uncommon in the early part of the 20th century). The heavy construction allowed mis-spec’d ammo to headspace off of the extractor instead of the case rim and still permit the pistol to operate. Browning had given a great deal of thought to the conditions that a combat pistol would have to operate under.

BTW, a review of the original patent for the 1911 shows that there were no thumb and/or grip safeties included in the design. A half cock notch was considered more than adequate by Browning. It was the U.S. Army that later asked for the safeties to be added.
 
Heavyduty77 said:
I hate to be one but as far as a slide stop falling out of a 1911 from hitting someone in the head……………..? Unless the tang on the slide stop had been previously broken off there’s no way it can be removed without lining up the notch in the slide with the tang on the slide stop thus allowing its removal. I suppose you could hit the right side of the slide stop pin with a hammer hard enough to break it but even then the pressure from the recoil spring on the link against the slide stop pin would make it almost impossible to just fall out.

As far as the article goes, slamming the slide onto a cartridge dropped into the chamber was an accepted practice early on when the 1911 was adopted. Too, look at the extractor itself, it’s massive compared to the usual pivoted hook type currently in use on most pistols (also used on Browning’s earlier designed pistols). The heavy extractor was designed to take abuse and to also accommodate mis-spec’d ammunition (not uncommon in the early part of the 20th century). The heavy construction allowed mis-spec’d ammo to headspace off of the extractor instead of the case rim and still permit the pistol to operate. Browning had given a great deal of thought to the conditions that a combat pistol would have to operate under.

BTW, a review of the original patent for the 1911 shows that there were no thumb and/or grip safeties included in the design. A half cock notch was considered more than adequate by Browning. It was the U.S. Army that later asked for the safeties to be added.
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:rolleyes: It did happen the way I said it happened were are talking old 1911s U.S.Army issue 45 pistols that were produced long before I was ever born .and yes the nub on the slide stop lever was broken I pointed it out to the unit armorer he replaced it and then checked several of the units 1911s and he replaced several slide stop levers that were worn or broken.
 
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