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Happy Days - The US Congress has passed H.R. 1, which includes provisions impacting the regulation of suppressors, SBRs, and SBSs

xdman said:
Tax free wont take place until Jan 1 2026, silencershop has told its dealers, and now capitol Armory is also advising the same.




Some mfg’s and such are adapting with 200 dollar rebates, since they know the market is going to slow to a crawl. Others are advising that you should buy now to beat the “rush”. My additional advice is to go out and get your EFT electronic finger prints done (not silencershop) but where you actually gat the EFT file, that speeds things up tremendously.
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I have to wonder how can they suddenly afford to give $200 price breaks? It's almost as if, like Glock, they were charging consumers a lot more than it cost to make the product. Glock seems to be able to afford to practically give there guns away to military and L.E departments. They will always sell to first responders for a little more, but still at a discount. When it comes to average citizens, they get charged much more.
 
WellArmed said:
I have to wonder how can they suddenly afford to give $200 price breaks? It's almost as if, like Glock, they were charging consumers a lot more than it cost to make the product. Glock seems to be able to afford to practically give there guns away to military and L.E departments. They will always sell to first responders for a little more, but still at a discount. When it comes to average citizens, they get charged much more.
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IMO, Suppressors have always been a bit over-priced, considering their really very simple.

But since suppressors have been an NFA item, manufacturers have built in a premium over actual manufacturing costs.

With the tax going away, and hopefully off the NFA sometime soon, the new tech being used to make them, and a ton more manufacturers lately, I hope actual prices will go down.

My .02
 
Most people on other forums are complaining and are upset about the removal of the tax. They seem to be against the removal and want the tax to remain. I just don't get it. Seems more people are upset that Republicans finally gave us civilian gun owners something after over a century. It's not perfect, but at least it's something. It's the best they could do with the amount of votes they had. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.
 
WellArmed said:
Most people on other forums are complaining and are upset about the removal of the tax. They seem to be against the removal and want the tax to remain. I just don't get it. Seems more people are upset that Republicans finally gave us civilian gun owners something after over a century. It's not perfect, but at least it's something. It's the best they could do with the amount of votes they had. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.
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Why would any 2A advocate be against removing the tax? It would be better to remove suppressors, SBS, SBR & AOW off the registry all together, but this is a step in the right direction.
 
uspatriot1960 said:
Why would any 2A advocate be against removing the tax? It would be better to remove suppressors, SBS, SBR & AOW off the registry all together, but this is a step in the right direction.
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Let me offer this …. perhaps some want there to be a minimal barrier to entry ?

Spend even 10 minutes at your local gun show and you’ll see someone, maybe several people, who probably shouldn’t own a firearm in the first place.(think Darwin Award candidate)

The tax may - to the way of thinking of some - keep that shallow end of the gene pool from getting into the finer side of firearm ownership.

Just a thought.

Disclaimer: I am not in favor of the gubment regulating (taxing) a right that exists by way of the bill of rights.
 
Anchorite said:
Let me offer this …. perhaps some want there to be a minimal barrier to entry ?

Spend even 10 minutes at your local gun show and you’ll see someone, maybe several people, who probably shouldn’t own a firearm in the first place.(think Darwin Award candidate)

The tax may - to the way of thinking of some - keep that shallow end of the gene pool from getting into the finer side of firearm ownership.

Just a thought.

Disclaimer: I am not in favor of the gubment regulating (taxing) a right that exists by way of the bill of rights.
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That would be a stupid reason. 2A rights apply to every citizen. Unless you lose the right via felony conviction. There should be NO barriers to entry… The 2nd amendment doesn’t say the right to bear arms - unless you’re an idiot.
 
Hi,

WellArmed said:
Most people on other forums are complaining and are upset about the removal of the tax. They seem to be against the removal and want the tax to remain. I just don't get it. Seems more people are upset that Republicans finally gave us civilian gun owners something after over a century. It's not perfect, but at least it's something. It's the best they could do with the amount of votes they had. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.
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I wonder if those who have paid the tax are jealous of those who won't have to. You wouldn't think so.

I wonder if those other forums are full of anti-2A trolls who don't want us to protect our hearing. Or maybe they're afraid we'll turn into a bunch of ninja assassins.

People are weird.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Belt Fed said:
I'm certainly not, i didn't think it would happen and it hasn't yet. i hope it does go away and people can get one. not jealous at all.
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I’m not jealous either. And it HAS happened. No tax on suppressors, SBS, SBR & AOW are now $0. It’s law passed by Congress and signed by President Trump. Should start Jan 1. Now, we just need to get registration removed from the NFA.
 
uspatriot1960 said:
That would be a stupid reason. 2A rights apply to every citizen. Unless you lose the right via felony conviction. There should be NO barriers to entry… The 2nd amendment doesn’t say the right to bear arms - unless you’re an idiot.
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I don’t disagree with your position, just offering an alternate theory as to why some are in favor of the tax. Do you have a theory as to why the tax has its supporters?
 
Anchorite said:
I don’t disagree with your position, just offering an alternate theory as to why some are in favor of the tax. Do you have a theory as to why the tax has its supporters?
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I have heard an argument that if the tax can be removed it can just as easily be put back and increased to infinity and beyond. The seal being broken…
But somehow if NFA is removed it can’t be put back in play? I didn’t pursue the matter any further.
 
Hertervillian said:
I have heard an argument that if the tax can be removed it can just as easily be put back and increased to infinity and beyond. The seal being broken…
But somehow if NFA is removed it can’t be put back in play? I didn’t pursue the matter any further.
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In a very general sense without delving too deeply into the previous SCOTUS position, no tax, no NFA. So I suppose if the NFA is now back in front of SCOTUS, it gets eliminated once and for all….so goes the thinking.
 
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