SIG M18 mishaps investigated in death of Airman 7/20/25
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Watching the video helps.
Basically, it's a situation where the trigger isn't fully resetting, e.g. there's wear, dirt, etc. that would allow the trigger forward, but about 1mm or so from "fully forward" and the sear will disengage without a complete trigger pull, only the 1mm or so.
SimonRL
Ronin
So basically, he says I think it can happen under these extreme circumstances but I can’t prove it, so I’m going to stick a screw in here to induce this one-in-many-thousands (being generous here) situation. I don’t know how Sig hasn’t just closed its doors after this damning evidence.
Belt Fed
Ronin
None of mine have a screw in them..just sayin, No i'm not watching it. click bait is all it is. Not saying there is not a problem with these guns. i don't know. but a guy that sticks a wood screw up the trigger is not worth mentioning. these clowns will do anything for money. Most ridiculous thing i ever seen.
Your refusal to watch it to determine what, if any information is actually in it vs. dismissing it out of hand as "click bait" tells me everything I need to know about your willingness to understand this problem. Of course nobody walks around with a screw in the gun... but nobody is banging their guns around in a vice in a controlled lab that often, either. It's about experimenting to find what conditions could lead to this... since SIG isn't (publicly) doing that already.
The wood screw is just a mechanism to apply the slight pressure to the trigger to move it 1mm rearward consistently.
If this is the most ridiculous thing you've ever seen, let me recommend:
KillerFord1977
SAINT
Manipulating any trigger on any gun ever made could reault in a diacharge .
That’s what triggers do
You have striker-fired guns where 1mm of movement actuates the trigger? Which ones?
Talyn
SAINT
Correct. The standard Sig P320 Factory Trigger does not have an over-travel adjustment screw, but aftermarket triggers do.
So, it appears that some YouTuber content-creator alters a OEM P320 with an aftermarket trigger assembly that has a trigger adjustment screw then claims the handgun is defective after "Fking" with the aftermarket trigger, and "simple-minds" buy-in on the click-bait.
Sig should sue the creator of this vid, and YouTube for allowing similar vids where the handgun has been altered from it's OEM set-up then claiming the P320 is prone to unintentional firing.
Just saying.
KillerFord1977
SAINT
I said “could”…
Lots of super light competition triggers may go off with minimal input.
Calm down Francis. Being combative on every post gets old … quick
I didn't see anything like that in the video you didn't watch. Nobody is selling his configuration as an aftermarket trigger overtravel screw, especially when overtravel isn't the issue in play.
There's just lots and lots of misinformation here, especially from people being willfully ignorant. This isn't a competition trigger, it's a duty trigger in a striker fired pistol.
Belt Fed
Ronin
Dude! he has a wood screw stuck up in the trigger, do you have wood screws in the triggers on your guns? Anyone that does that is not credible. I think you have an extensive 320 collection and are mad cause they have been deemed unsafe.
Yes. Are you actually agreeing with the poster that believes that's "an aftermarket trigger mod for overtravel?"
Really?
And you do understand why he has that there? What function it's providing for the test? That requires critical thinking - are you capable of that? If so, can you prove it?
It's the guns fault always sounds like a (D) argument to me.
Until, of course, it is. Historically, lots of guns have found to be unsafe and require modifications to make them safer.
Talyn
SAINT
Fixed it for you...
Until, of course, it is. Historically, lots of safe guns have had modifications done to them that were found to be unsafe.
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I like your blinders. They're cute.
Transfer bars becoming a thing on revolvers?
Or: https://www.scribd.com/document/401457356/Smith-Wesson-M-P15-22-Safety-Alert-Instructions#from_embed where a bad bolt face caused the issue?
More information here on other safety recalls...
None of these were based on modifications. They were all from the factory.
KillerFord1977
SAINT
That was modified by the person posting the video
