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halman

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does anyone cc with a pistol with optics? any problems or tips? planning on replacing my xds 45 with the hellcat, but now my eyes need (or like) optics
 
I CC a .40 mod 2 with Vortex Venom. I have great vision, and excellent with Iron sights. The ease of use and a bigger sight picture is just more efficient for me. I need efficiency, precision and able to see my target clearly and whats behind it. So far I don't have any concerns or complications CC with a micro dot.
Go with what makes you comfortable to shoot with. Just don't get that flimsy flip up micro dot out there.
 
I like my laser.

My concern with a red dot is, lint/dust/dirt on the lens that would obscure the target (potentially). I end up cleaning my XDs about once a week, carried IWB in kydex, just because of clothing lint and environmental dust. I can't (especially as one who wears eyeglasses) imagine how much dust a dot lens would accumulate in EDC!
 
I am presently looking into getting a EDC with a RDO. The Hellcat would be great but unfortunately it is striker fired and I don't like striker fired hand guns. SCCY is supposed to be coming out with a RDO equiped compact pistol in the $350 range and it is hammer fired DAO.
 
I like my laser.

My concern with a red dot is, lint/dust/dirt on the lens that would obscure the target (potentially). I end up cleaning my XDs about once a week, carried IWB in kydex, just because of clothing lint and environmental dust. I can't (especially as one who wears eyeglasses) imagine how much dust a dot lens would accumulate in EDC!
i hadnt thought of the lint problem. i should have being as i use a clipdraw on my xds 45. im still trying to find those pants that have lintless pockets...............
 
I carry with a dot and I recommend it. I will probably do a "one mans experience carrying with a dot" kind of post this weekend, but the short answer is that with a decent dot for most people, non of the things you think will go wrong will go wrong, and most of the issues are theoretical in nature, as opposed to practical.
 
I swear by my auto-on Viridian laser. Magnet switch on the laser, magnet in the holster. Draw, it lights automatically. I set elevation and windage to zero it in at around 20 feet. If I have to fire from cover and can't create a good, traditional sight picture...I simply place the dot on the target, and pull the trigger.

Yes, it could technically give away my location if I hold it on target long enough before firing. But I don't plan to have it on target that long, before firing.

That said...I hope this is all an exercise in academics and I never have to put it into practice.
 
Get some good training on it, halman, from an instructor who is noted for their proficiency with "window guns," and I guaranty that you won't end up having *any* of the concerns you have. :)
 
Yes, the pic is not mine but mine nearly identical. H-S Precision VP Varmint Pistol in 7mm-08. Laser gun.

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I put a Venom on my Q5. That is just an insanely accurate pistol. I don't carry really carry it. If I were going to I would either put a DPP on it or go back with the iron sights.
 
The thing I do like about the M2.0 is the suppressor sights to co witness the optic. Yes I had issues with installing it on the 10MM but it got fixed and works great now.
Cool, good info. Been thinking about 5” slide anyhoo so may get optic cut. It’s my carry piece but i use a murse….satchel…man bag :)
 
The thing I do like about the M2.0 is the suppressor sights to co witness the optic. Yes I had issues with installing it on the 10MM but it got fixed and works great now.

If you mean co-witness, like the sights in one view and the dot in another, great. If you slaved the dot to the sights, that's wrong.

 
If you mean co-witness, like the sights in one view and the dot in another, great. If you slaved the dot to the sights, that's wrong.


That depends on what distance he zeroed the optic. Or more specifically if it’s zeroed at the same distance as the irons. And in any case, if they’re dramatically different with a handgun you F’ed something up.

The term co-witness means you can engage your iron sights through the glass of your optic. And everyone here is well aware the two should be zeroed independently.
 
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