You may still be correct, you certainly were before the zero tax. Now everything you are saying can be handled with the Will and a Form 4
Not to mention as soon as any (D) has a say so, that tax is coming back with a vengeance. Wouldn’t surprise me if it doubles or triples…
Maybe but I would count on it
If a person files as an “Individual” for their form 1 or form 4, then when they pass, the item must be surrended to the ATF per the regulations and law. A Will wont matter. Wont be legal unless its in a Trust. Therefore, I do items in a trust.
OR a SOT dealer for transfer to another individual. Again you may be right; but thats the info we just received last week. Things have changed since the zero tax was implicated
Well I suppose you can trust them or not and nothing I say will likely change your mind BUT if they do change something whos to say what good a trust will do when they change
Agree and Understood, but waiting for a trust approval for a couple weeks will save a big hassle down the road when we pass on
I get what youre saying, and honestly when Im dead my kids will probably just be looking to sell them.
What i read was without a trust they will be taken by the ATF, no transfer to anyone.
Maybe so, Yes still say do a Form 5 for estates BUT the Form 5 doesnt exist anymore. What was printed before Zero Tax is out of date. We're currently doing a transfer from a widow to the shop and shop to the son-in-law because thats what ATF told us to do
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). Added the single item trust where I can add/remove responsible persons.
Sometimes, worthwhile progress comes slowly.Thought I would follow up since I was whining earlier in the thread
19 Feb 26 - purchased suppressor at Silencer Shop (so they could do all the paperwork
26 Feb 26 - LGS called and went over stuff with me on the phone while I finished up online. Later same day, got the status change email from the ATF.
29 Mar 26 - Got status “approved” email from ATF. Later in the afternoon, got call from LGS that my suppressor was released from ATF jail (my words, not his).
30 Mar 26 - Liberated suppressor from LGS; it is now awaiting me to decide what to try it out on.
Otter Creek Lithium https://ottercreeklabs.com/product/lithium/
I have two that's been two months now.Thought I would follow up since I was whining earlier in the thread
19 Feb 26 - purchased suppressor at Silencer Shop (so they could do all the paperwork
26 Feb 26 - LGS called and went over stuff with me on the phone while I finished up online. Later same day, got the status change email from the ATF.
29 Mar 26 - Got status “approved” email from ATF. Later in the afternoon, got call from LGS that my suppressor was released from ATF jail (my words, not his).
30 Mar 26 - Liberated suppressor from LGS; it is now awaiting me to decide what to try it out on.
Otter Creek Lithium https://ottercreeklabs.com/product/lithium/
I have the OCL Lithium on my Kuna and love it. I got the Resilient Titanium 3 Lug Adapter and the SilencerCo 3 Lug Muzzle Device for mine and love the set up. Got both of those accessories off the OCL website. With good subsonic ammo, the Lithium is pretty darned quiet. Have fun!!Thought I would follow up since I was whining earlier in the thread
19 Feb 26 - purchased suppressor at Silencer Shop (so they could do all the paperwork
26 Feb 26 - LGS called and went over stuff with me on the phone while I finished up online. Later same day, got the status change email from the ATF.
29 Mar 26 - Got status “approved” email from ATF. Later in the afternoon, got call from LGS that my suppressor was released from ATF jail (my words, not his).
30 Mar 26 - Liberated suppressor from LGS; it is now awaiting me to decide what to try it out on.
Otter Creek Lithium https://ottercreeklabs.com/product/lithium/
Roll the terrorist pipe bomb attack investigations and all the threats with bombs, weapons, etc under the FBI and disband the atf. Dual agency to other LEO agencies we have.