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EMP FAILURE TO FEED

Bassbob

Ronin
The issue is quite likely the Critical Defects.

The rubber “brake pad” in the nose is known to cause failures to feed in several different pistols.

Additionally, handguns have their idiosyncrasies; just because one handgun will feed it, even if it’s the consecutive serial number to yours, is no guarantee yours will…there’s nothing wrong with your pistol.

I’d try a different JHP. Bet it feeds just fine.

(ETA—nice autocorrect typo, with “Defects” for “Defense”…I’ll just let it be)


I never would have suspected it was a typo. That is a perfect name for it.
 

Pop70

Alpha
I picked up a new Ronin EMP 3" last night as a retirement gift to myself. I already have an Emissary .45 ACP 4.25" and a Ronin 10mm.

Went to the range today and fired off 100 rounds of MagTech FMJ, worked perfectly. Tried a box of Hornady Critical Defense next and the problems started. Not a grip issue, I have a good grip on things.

9 rounds in the mag, released the slide and it did not fully seat the round. After that, the rounds started diving nose down into the feed ramp almost every round. Didn't matter if it was the first or 9th round in the mag. Sometimes it would feed a second round, but then the 3rd would do it again. Finished the box of 25 and called it a day.

I know 125 rounds is not a break-in and could be part of the problem with the Critical Defense, but with the high price of ammo, both range and defense ammo, I'm not going to keep shooting if there are issues with this and SA CS needs to get involved. I am going to fire off another 150 rounds of the FMJ MagTech and then try the Critical Defense again.

Anyone have any comments or suggestions? Thanks!

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I had a4” ccc doing same thing with 115. Returned 2nd time. SA tested with 147 coco jhp found no problem. I switched to 124 jhp not hornady. Three different 124 jhp all ok with one mag. Same mag now feeds 115 GMC. Returned two other mags for
replacement. Will post after trying replacement mags. SA was prompt each time I contacted them for service. I’m not ver patient but it’s working so far.
 

TidalWave

Professional
Yeah, that’s really not true.

Every gun has a type/brand/profile that it won’t feed reliably…some people just don’t shoot enough to find it.

You did…just accept it, and find something it will run.
Agree with Gruber…

To add: EDC is of course Every Day Carry. But with handguns, it oughta mean Everyday Defense Carry, simply because that is the only reason 99.9% of non-LE folks would bother lugging one around all day.
Logically, someone concerned with self protection will want to make sure they carry something it’ll feed… not that it’ll eat anything. Especially true for higher precision/higher end guns.

A gun that’ll “eat anything” is more along the lines of my S&W SD9. I haven’t found any 9mil it won’t take - but the trade off is in accuracy and other possible drawbacks (like ergonomics, for me. A bit clunky).
I don’t think I’d wanna EDC my SD9, much as i do like it…
Just my 2 cents.
 

Bassbob

Ronin
Agree with Gruber…

To add: EDC is of course Every Day Carry. But with handguns, it oughta mean Everyday Defense Carry, simply because that is the only reason 99.9% of non-LE folks would bother lugging one around all day.
Logically, someone concerned with self protection will want to make sure they carry something it’ll feed… not that it’ll eat anything. Especially true for higher precision/higher end guns.

A gun that’ll “eat anything” is more along the lines of my S&W SD9. I haven’t found any 9mil it won’t take - but the trade off is in accuracy and other possible drawbacks (like ergonomics, for me. A bit clunky).
I don’t think I’d wanna EDC my SD9, much as i do like it…
Just my 2 cents.
I don't know. May be dependent on the design and manufacturing quality of the firearm. I only own two 9MMs. An HK VP9 and a Walther Q5 Match. I haven't found anything they won't run yet.
 
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