Let's see your AR setups...
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TEXASforLIFE
Ronin
looks like the gun found a new gun rack
old but still kicking
Elite
Since I’m outta ur new rifle range, I’m gonna respond, ‘ why no need to read the suggestions ?’ … I’m thinking for the same reason women, especially wives, have an uncanny ability to recall those very few times (!?!) us men screw it up !! Yes, the sky is a lovely rainbow color in my imaginary worldWhy is it that men don't feel the need to read instructions? At least mine doesn't..
Blackfeather
Custom
My little K1A1 as well as my other AR types are now wearing Aimpoint RDS.
The EOTech is back on an M14.
The EOTech is back on an M14.
old but still kicking
Elite
Sweet looking setups, man. More than a little envious - of the rifles, not the carpet
stormhammer
Operator
My recent 20" I completed
stormhammer
Operator
And this has been probably the most fun build I've done - and man, do people either love it or hate it
It's currently awaiting some LPK parts and a 16" 6.5CM barrel ( which I need to decide if I want to cut down to 14.5 with the 15" handguard, or leave it at 16" )
It's currently awaiting some LPK parts and a 16" 6.5CM barrel ( which I need to decide if I want to cut down to 14.5 with the 15" handguard, or leave it at 16" )
TEXASforLIFE
Ronin
Why would anyone do a somewhat of a long range cartridge with a short barrel? 18" sure, 16" maybe, but anything less doesn't make sense. I understand it's a choice, but what purpose would it be
stormhammer
Operator
It's inspired by the MRGG-A - Mid Range Gas Gun Assault, done by LMT, FN, Geiselle, KAC, even Aero
As for why 14.5, basically it's the shortest and most competent package that will outperform 308 in every way. A 14.5" will give you 24” Grendel performance basically, capable of reliably touching 1100-1300 yards, and will stay supersonic out to that point as a 14.5 will spit a 130gr at anywhere from 2460-2560fps, and a 123gr at 2575-2675fps, all while also having a flatter trajectory.
It boils down to it being the most efficient smallest package for a gas gun. The NSW contract these are meant to replace the SCAR 17, the 6.5CM was the round requirement, for something that also had decreased weight but increased range and accuracy.
stormhammer
Operator
From my research so far it seems its ~35fps difference between the two, so the juice isn't worth the squeeze yet.
TEXASforLIFE
Ronin
Do you have a chrono? If so (or the use of another's) I'd be interested in the info (velocity, bullet style and weight).
A 300bo can get out that far also along with many other cartridges, but as you mentioned it will have a different/increased trajectory.
TEXASforLIFE
Ronin
Hope you have a suppressor as it WILL have a LOT of muzzle blast
TEXASforLIFE
Ronin
stormhammer
Operator
I specifically do not, but this redditor has been documenting his stuff
| Factory - Berger 153.5gr Long Range Hybrid Target | 2439 fps |
|---|---|
| Factory - Federal 130gr Gold Medal Match Berger AR Hybrid OTM Tactical | 2574 fps |
| Factory - Federal 140gr Gold Medal Match Berger Hybrid Target | 2545 fps |
| Factory - Hornady 140gr ELD Match | 2451 fps |
| Factory - Hornady 147gr ELD Match | 2432 fps |
| Factory - Winchester 125gr Target and Practice Open Tip | 2581 fps |
| Hand Load - Hornady 147gr ELD Match w/ 42gr Vihtavuori N160, CCI 200 Primer @ 2.800" COAL | 2415 fps |
| Hand Load - Hornady 153gr A-Tip Match w/ 41gr Vihtavuori N160, CCI 200 Primer @ 2.800" COAL | 2341 fps |
| Hand Load - Hornady 147gr ELD Match w/ 40gr Hodgdon H4350, CCI 200 Primer @ 2.800" COAL | 2392 fps |
| Hand Load - Hornady 153gr A-Tip Match w/ 36.6gr Shooter's World Precision Rifle, CCI 200 Primer @ 2.800" COAL | 2349 fps |
I believe he works for Thunder Beast suppressor company too based on his post history.
As for a suppressor? Eventually.... once it gets out of jail. Till then, well... RIP to anyone at the indoor range as I do the initial zeroing
TEXASforLIFE
Ronin
I don't see where it states barrel length. If they're from a 14.5", then I'll out the info info target solution and get trajectory info.
If the barrel with the muzzle device exceeds the required 16in length of the OAL and is permanently fixed by pin and welding, then a 14.5in barrel can be used on a legal non SBR rifle. There are factory short barrels that come with a pin and welded muzzle device to achieve the 16in requirement.
stormhammer
Operator
this haha - and I can laser P&W in my garage