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President Trump Reportedly Set to Accept Boeing 747-8 Gift From Qatar

KillerFord1977 said:
I will counter that opinion:
Boeing cant deliver a new Air Force One on time, nor on budget. The current fleet is getting super expensive to maintain and update.
The ideal solution as the AF points out is for a model of 747 that is in service around the world and many are for sale.
All L3Harris has to do is modify and not wait on Boeing’s delays.
Save taxpayer money. Save time.
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yup and qatar is not giving it to president..its going to air force to modify for use as presidential conveyance
so next guy or gal gets its

most of the 747s that go into presidential use are USED. gov buys older generation birds and rehabs them
lots cheaper than new and boeing has been playing shell game since trumps 1st term, with costs and delays etc
 
powerboatr said:
yup and qatar is not giving it to president..its going to air force to modify for use as presidential conveyance
so next guy or gal gets its

most of the 747s that go into presidential use are USED. gov buys older generation birds and rehabs them
lots cheaper than new and boeing has been playing shell game since trumps 1st term, with costs and delays etc
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Not true
 
Mellgard said:
Yes it is. It violates the emoluments clause. This (gift) after office goes into the Trump presidential library. He keeps it. And nobody else.
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Past Presidents don't "own" their Presidential Libraries/Centers a Federal Agency, the National Archives and Records Admininstration (NARA) does.

While the libraries are often constructed and initially funded with private donations, they are then transferred to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), a federal agency. NARA then operates and maintains the libraries.

Here's a more detailed explanation:
  • Private Funding and Construction:
    Presidential libraries are typically constructed with private funds, often through donations to non-profit organizations established by the former president.

  • Transfer to NARA:
    Once the library is built, it's transferred to the federal government, specifically NARA, which takes responsibility for its operation and maintenance.

  • Federal Ownership and Management:
    The libraries, along with their contents (records, artifacts, etc.), become the property of the American people and are managed by the Office of Presidential Libraries within NARA.

  • Presidential Records Act:
    The Presidential Records Act of 1978 dictates that all official records of the President are owned by the United States government and managed by NARA.
en.wikipedia.org

Presidential library system - Wikipedia

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So, the Emoluments Clause doesn't apply.

So, the donated 747-8i would be owned and operated by the US Government during Trump 2.0, then transfered to the Trump Center/Library when its ready for it.
 
Talyn said:
Past Presidents don't "own" their Presidential Libraries/Centers a Federal Agency, the National Archives and Records Admininstration (NARA) does.

While the libraries are often constructed and initially funded with private donations, they are then transferred to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), a federal agency. NARA then operates and maintains the libraries.

Here's a more detailed explanation:
  • Private Funding and Construction:
    Presidential libraries are typically constructed with private funds, often through donations to non-profit organizations established by the former president.

  • Transfer to NARA:
    Once the library is built, it's transferred to the federal government, specifically NARA, which takes responsibility for its operation and maintenance.

  • Federal Ownership and Management:
    The libraries, along with their contents (records, artifacts, etc.), become the property of the American people and are managed by the Office of Presidential Libraries within NARA.

  • Presidential Records Act:
    The Presidential Records Act of 1978 dictates that all official records of the President are owned by the United States government and managed by NARA.
en.wikipedia.org

Presidential library system - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org


So, the Emoluments Clause doesn't apply.

So, the donated 747-8i would be owned and operated by the US Government during Trump 2.0, then transfered to the Trump Center/Library when its ready for it.
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want to get blown away
go visit the clinton library in little rock
the amount of STUFF they received is incredible. so is little bushs at SMU, but its not near as wholly cow that stuff is pricey as clintons
 
Mellgard said:
Nothing changes the fact of accepting the plane from a known Islamic evtreanist sympathizer... I'm out.
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Can you give me a list of politicians in the last 30 years who aren’t guilty of doing business with them ? We’ve been selling military arms to Saudi Arabia for decades. We literally armed Iran in the 70s.

I agree with you about dealing with terrorists but you don’t get to just call out the guy you don’t like.
 
Talyn said:
The 105s were still very adequate against all the Ruskie tanks there, including in the updated USMC M60A1s who cleaned up going into Kuwait City.
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Yup. Post Gulf War I was assigned with a man who was the ops officer of one of the 105mm M1 battalions. He told me after the cease fire they towed three relatively intact T-72s at 1000m, 2000m and 3000m from the M1 and all presenting the front slope. At 1000m the 105 had an in-out; through the front slope and out the back. At 2000m and 3000, the 105 achieved penetration of the front slope with no problem. The advantage of keeping the 105 for decades is we only had to improve the ammo. A far cheaper solution.
 
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